R316s (1929 Kashins) are definitely cards, printed on card stock that is thinner than Goudeys but more rigid than a paper photograph. IMHO those diecuts are game pieces, not cards. The images are generic, the labels are interchangeable and they can't be tied to a specific year. Thus, they don't seem to qualify as a "rookie collectible," let alone a "rookie card."
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Originally Posted by G1911
Unpopular opinion, but for once I think the 1933 Goudey actually is a rookie.
As I recall (mine are buried somewhere in a box I can't find with a quick check), the 1929 Kashin's are very thin, a paper photograph. I do not think this is a card because a card requires cardboard. Happy to stand corrected if my memory is wrong.
Same thing for his 1930 Chicago Evening Pin; often appears on card lists and catalogs but a pin is not a card.
The Die-Cut pre-dates the Goudey, and it names Berg, and it is on cardboard, but that picture is not Berg. I think a rookie card kind of has to actually show the player, not just slap a random name on a generic picture.
That leaves the Goudey as his first actual card - first card (cardboard), picturing Moe Berg.
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