I don't see how you can say that about Joe Torre unless you also have a problem with Casey Stengel getting in. In 13 seasons as a non-Yankees manager the highest he ever finished was 5th.
Torre finished first with the Braves in 1982 and won the Western division twice in a row with the Dodgers.
My opinion is Torre is the only HOFer out of the bunch.
Last edited by packs; 11-05-2013 at 08:20 AM.
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