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Archive 05-18-2008 12:18 PM

Who is the one player who most deserves to be in the HOF?
 
Posted By: <b>Bob</b><p>You can only pick one:<br /><br />Is it:<br />1) Jack Glasscock<br />2) Bill Dahlen<br />3) Ed Reulbach<br />4) Ron Santo<br />5) Jim Kaat<br />6) Milt Pappas<br />7) Pete Rose<br />8) Tony Oliva<br />9) Bill Buckner<br />10) Tommy John<br />11) Vada Pinson<br />12) Bert Blyleven<br />13) Curt Flood<br />14) Jack Morris<br />15) Carl Mays<br /><br />I know Joe Jackson is going to be the favorite, but OTHER THAN Joe Jax, who would you pick?

Archive 05-18-2008 12:23 PM

Who is the one player who most deserves to be in the HOF?
 
Posted By: <b>Jodi Birkholm</b><p>Will White. Hank O'Day.

Archive 05-18-2008 12:29 PM

Who is the one player who most deserves to be in the HOF?
 
Posted By: <b>Dave S</b><p>If based solely on the way he played the game, obviously I have to go with Pete..<br />But based on his character and exta-curriculars, I'll split my vote between Santo and Tony O.<br />How's that for getting around "One Only" Bob...

Archive 05-18-2008 12:34 PM

Who is the one player who most deserves to be in the HOF?
 
Posted By: <b>Jodi Birkholm</b><p>Wish Glasscock and O'Day would be inducted. I have two Glasscock autographs and the only O'Day signed ball I've ever seen. My reasons are selfish and entirely financially-driven. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

Archive 05-18-2008 12:35 PM

Who is the one player who most deserves to be in the HOF?
 
Posted By: <b>Danny Grimes</b><p>Blyleven

Archive 05-18-2008 12:37 PM

Who is the one player who most deserves to be in the HOF?
 
Posted By: <b>Tony</b><p>Pete Rose...... Dumb as a box of rocks but deserves to be in.<br /><br />Tony

Archive 05-18-2008 12:39 PM

Who is the one player who most deserves to be in the HOF?
 
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>BILL DAHLEN<br /><br />However, don't expect the current crop of dudes on the HOF selection committee to ever select<br /> anyone on your list.<br /><br />T-Rex TED

Archive 05-18-2008 01:05 PM

Who is the one player who most deserves to be in the HOF?
 
Posted By: <b>Phil Garry</b><p>Pete Rose is the obvious choice and then Lefty O'Doul, although neither one is presently eligible.

Archive 05-18-2008 01:07 PM

Who is the one player who most deserves to be in the HOF?
 
Posted By: <b>Jodi Birkholm</b><p>This thread sounds far too similar to one we participated in a few months ago. Again, I'll agree with Phil that O'Doul really needs to be enshrined. It's a crime that the gates are presently locked to a man who did so much good for his sport.

Archive 05-18-2008 01:21 PM

Who is the one player who most deserves to be in the HOF?
 
Posted By: <b>Geno</b><p>No doubt about it - Ron Santo!<br /><br />His numbers are as good as Brooks Robinson - it's a crime he's not in there next to Ernie, Billy, and Fergie...<br /><br />Take Care,<br />Geno<br />

Archive 05-18-2008 01:26 PM

Who is the one player who most deserves to be in the HOF?
 
Posted By: <b>Bob</b><p>Although I am partial to Tony O. and Blyleven, if I had just one vote it would be for Curt Flood. An All-Star centerfielder who at age 32 sacrificed everything for principle. He only had 35 bats for the rest of his career although he had HOF numbers before his decision.<br />

Archive 05-18-2008 01:26 PM

Who is the one player who most deserves to be in the HOF?
 
Posted By: <b>David Vargha</b><p><font color=blue>Rose</font><br><br>DavidVargha@hotmail.com

Archive 05-18-2008 01:40 PM

Who is the one player who most deserves to be in the HOF?
 
Posted By: <b>george &quot;bulldog&quot; adams</b><p>write-in vote for luis tiant. bulldog

Archive 05-18-2008 02:03 PM

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Posted By: <b>fkw</b><p>Frank "Lefty" O'Doul<br /><br />Started off as Left Handed Pitcher for SF of the PCL. Stayed close to home and played many season in PCL which many considered the 3rd Major League.<br /><br />Injured his arm, then came back and became a great hitter (similar to Joe Wood, Babe Ruth, Rick Ankiel).<br /><br />Best season in MLB<br />1929 .398 ave, 254 hits, 32 HRs, 122 RBIs (considered one of the best seasons of all time)<br />1930 .383<br />1932 .368<br /><br />MLB lifetime .349 ave<br /><br />4 different MLB season with more Homeruns than Strikeouts (very very tough)<br /><br />Retired to the PCL to become a successful manager of San Francisco from 1937-51 and is considered the most successful manager in PCL history.<br /><br />O'Doul was also instrumental in spreading baseball's popularity in Japan, serving as the sport's goodwill ambassador before and after World War II. The Tokyo Giants, sometimes considered "Japan's Baseball Team," were named by him in 1935 in honor of his longtime association with the New York Giants.<br /><br />Probably the most famous and well liked player from San Francisco. The drawbridge only 200 feet behind ATT Park in San Francisco is named the Lefty O'Doul Bridge. Owned the very popular Lefty O'Doul's Restaurant and Cocktail Lounge.<br /><br />Elected into the Bay Area Hall of Fame in 1981, and the Japanese Baseball Hall of Fame in 2002 <br />

Archive 05-18-2008 02:11 PM

Who is the one player who most deserves to be in the HOF?
 
Posted By: <b>Jodi Birkholm</b><p>Hear, hear. Wouldn't mind visiting his plauqe in Cooperstown sometime down the road. I have a single-signed ball which I wouldn't sell even if he was to be inducted!

Archive 05-18-2008 02:17 PM

Who is the one player who most deserves to be in the HOF?
 
Posted By: <b>Rhett Yeakley</b><p>No doubt... <br /><br />Pitcher: <b>Tony Mullane</b> (why isn't this guy already in the Hall?)<br />Hitter: <b>Stovey or O'Doul</b><br /><br />Edited to add... 2nd pitcher choice <b>Bob Caruthers</b> (I have heard the argument in the past that he doesn't qualify as he only played 9 years--THIS IS UNTRUE-he pitched for 9 years and then played a 10th (only 14 games) as an outfielder in 1893, so with his hitting he played for 10 years and would thus be eligible)

Archive 05-18-2008 02:52 PM

Who is the one player who most deserves to be in the HOF?
 
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>However, he too doesn't stand a chance......As, I alluded to, in my earlier post on this thread......<br /><br />"Don't expect the current crop of dudes on the HOF selection committee to ever select anyone on <br />this list."<br /><br />Based on the past few years Veteran's (or lack of them, e.g....Gil Hodges) that have been inducted<br /> into the HOF (e.g....Mazeroski, etc.). There is no rhyme or reason in their selection process. <br /><br />T-Rex TED<br /><br />

Archive 05-18-2008 02:58 PM

Who is the one player who most deserves to be in the HOF?
 
Posted By: <b>Jodi Birkholm</b><p>Yeah, let's not get started on Hodges and Martin. What a travesty. And I agree about The Apollo of the Box.

Archive 05-18-2008 03:08 PM

Who is the one player who most deserves to be in the HOF?
 
Posted By: <b>J. McMurry</b><p>What do the powers that be have against Billy Martin?<br /><br /> Bill James called him "the best manager not already in the HOF"

Archive 05-18-2008 03:11 PM

Who is the one player who most deserves to be in the HOF?
 
Posted By: <b>ali_lapoint</b><p>if you're going to argue lefty o'doul should be in then you can't ignore babe herman either.

Archive 05-18-2008 03:14 PM

Who is the one player who most deserves to be in the HOF?
 
Posted By: <b>Ken McMillan</b><p>Santo, based on character and how he played in his era. The total package.<br /><br />Kmac

Archive 05-18-2008 03:16 PM

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Posted By: <b>Steve Murray</b><p>4) Ron Santo

Archive 05-18-2008 03:16 PM

Who is the one player who most deserves to be in the HOF?
 
Posted By: <b>Jodi Birkholm</b><p>Herman vs. O'Doul is not a fair argument. Perhaps from a statistical standpoint, but Lefty should be in for more than one reason. Herman's poor defensive skills are legendary.

Archive 05-18-2008 03:17 PM

Who is the one player who most deserves to be in the HOF?
 
Posted By: <b>Patrick McHugh</b><p>I like Jack Morris. Is there one player on the list that did more for his team than Jack? Pete Rose but not on ballot yet! I have always looked at hall of fame as pick player as your first choice and then build a team around him. Any way the stats are all there for Jack and just check out his postseason. In fact he was the winning pitcher in the best world series game ever played in the best world series ever played!

Archive 05-18-2008 03:19 PM

Who is the one player who most deserves to be in the HOF?
 
Posted By: <b>Paul</b><p>Bob Caruthers, followed by George Van Haltren and Carl Mays.

Archive 05-18-2008 03:21 PM

Who is the one player who most deserves to be in the HOF?
 
Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>If you take Santo, you have to take Rice no?<br /><br />Obviously Rose.

Archive 05-18-2008 03:27 PM

Who is the one player who most deserves to be in the HOF?
 
Posted By: <b>Jodi Birkholm</b><p>&lt;&lt;If you take Santo, you have to take Rice no?&gt;&gt;<br /><br />No thanks, I'm on Atkins.<br /><br />Sincerely,<br /><br />Cooperstown<br />

Archive 05-18-2008 03:36 PM

Who is the one player who most deserves to be in the HOF?
 
Posted By: <b>ali_lapoint</b><p>whats the other reason o'doul should be in besides almost batting 400? sure he pitched, but he wasn't a good pitcher. herman was just as good a hitter over the same short period of time as o'doul was.

Archive 05-18-2008 03:39 PM

Who is the one player who most deserves to be in the HOF?
 
Posted By: <b>Jodi Birkholm</b><p>Go to SABR's biograhical website and enjoy a fascinating read. You'll understand then.

Archive 05-18-2008 03:55 PM

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Posted By: <b>T206Collector</b><p>Who is the one player who most deserves to be in the HOF?<br /><br />Babe Ruth.<br /><br />Wasn't that the question? And isn't that as interesting a question as what one player who is NOT in the HOF deserves to be in the HOF?<br /><br /><br><br>_ <u> </u> _ <u> </u> _ <u> </u> _ <u> </u> _ <u> </u> _ <u> </u> _ _ <br /><br />Visit <a href="http://www.t206collector.com" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.t206collector.com</a> to see signed pre-war card galleries, articles, my blog, my collection and more!

Archive 05-18-2008 03:56 PM

Who is the one player who most deserves to be in the HOF?
 
Posted By: <b>James Feagin</b><p>Well, at least O'Doul is in the Japanese HOF. If I was made emperor of baseball for a day and all things I said went. I would....<br /><br />1.) Eliminate the unbalanced schedule<br />2.) Set a generous salary cap with an accompanying floor<br />3.) Would automatically induct Blyleven, O'Doul, O'Neil and Travis into the HOF<br />4.) Set up a Nineteenth Century HOF commision with recommendations to induct one per yer for the next five years.<br />

Archive 05-18-2008 04:01 PM

Who is the one player who most deserves to be in the HOF?
 
Posted By: <b>ali_lapoint</b><p>i dont think he meets the HOF standard, but for a guy who didnt start his career until he was 30, ken williams put up some great numbers.

Archive 05-18-2008 04:02 PM

Who is the one player who most deserves to be in the HOF?
 
Posted By: <b>Jodi Birkholm</b><p>I love idea #4. I like half of idea #3 (O'Neil and O'Doul--and you could twist my arm to agree with inducting the Dutchman). Could care less about #1. Baseball died fifty years ago. And I hate the usage of the word "generous" in #2! "Respectable" would be my choice of verbiage in that instance.

Archive 05-18-2008 04:09 PM

Who is the one player who most deserves to be in the HOF?
 
Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>Lefty O'Doul.<br /><br />Period. It's a shame he is not in the Hall.

Archive 05-18-2008 04:16 PM

Who is the one player who most deserves to be in the HOF?
 
Posted By: <b>Andrew Saboley</b><p>Pete Rose, unless he bet against his own team.

Archive 05-18-2008 04:31 PM

Who is the one player who most deserves to be in the HOF?
 
Posted By: <b>Jim Dale</b><p>I just hope that someone in the world sticks to the rules once. Once they make the acception for Pete then why note McGuire, why not Clemmens, and anyone else that ever cheated or gambled on the game.<br />

Archive 05-18-2008 04:36 PM

Who is the one player who most deserves to be in the HOF?
 
Posted By: <b>Jodi Birkholm</b><p>Man, if they put McGuire in, it would surely be the Eve of Destruction.

Archive 05-18-2008 04:40 PM

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Jodi, now THAT was a good one. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

Archive 05-18-2008 04:43 PM

Who is the one player who most deserves to be in the HOF?
 
Posted By: <b>Jodi Birkholm</b><p>Glad a few of you have a good laugh once in a while! <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

Archive 05-18-2008 04:50 PM

Who is the one player who most deserves to be in the HOF?
 
Posted By: <b>boxingcardman</b><p><a href="http://imageevent.com/exhibitman/frankleftyodoulcard" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://imageevent.com/exhibitman/frankleftyodoulcard</a><br><br>Sic Gorgiamus Allos Subjectatos Nunc

Archive 05-18-2008 04:59 PM

Who is the one player who most deserves to be in the HOF?
 
Posted By: <b>boxingcardman</b><p>I'd create a hall of shame where all the despicable, cheating, juicing, etc. players would be "enshrined" as a lesson for future players and kids. Some automatic induction criteria and some proposed names for the museum areas holding them:<br /><br />1. Felony conviction (McLain's Cell)<br />2. Admitted cheater or bettor on baseball (The Rose Garden)<br />3. Admitted use of illegal or banned substances (Canseco's Power Alley)<br />4. Beat/assaulted spouse <br />5. DUI conviction (Girardi Way)<br />6. Positive test for banned substance (The Palmiero Wing)<br />7. Substance abuse (Parker Center)<br />8. Getting caught with an underaged girl (Clemens Playground)<br />9. Getting caught with a road apple/having a long term mistress (Boggs Boardroom)<br />10. Getting caught in a public sex act with a trannie (The Dave Stewart Wing). <br /><br />And FWIW, I am one of those who would not allow Joe Jackson into the HOF. He took the money and conspired to throw the series (whether he was too proud or too stupid to go through with it is another matter). Yes, he was a rube and probably pretty dumb but that's no excuse. He deserves to be an example to the world of what should happen to cheaters. <br /><br />Sic Gorgiamus Allos Subjectatos Nunc

Archive 05-18-2008 05:02 PM

Who is the one player who most deserves to be in the HOF?
 
Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p>If you overlook his fielding, Pete Browning.

Archive 05-18-2008 05:31 PM

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Posted By: <b>Darren</b><p>pete rose

Archive 05-18-2008 05:43 PM

Who is the one player who most deserves to be in the HOF?
 
Posted By: <b>Rhys</b><p>People love Dummy Hoy because he was deaf, but they ridicule Browning for his poor fielding (which was not that bad and was not even below average) for the same reason. He suffered from a disability which left him deaf. He could not hear the crack of the bat and was left to only his sight for judging the ball. He should be cut a little slack on that end given his physical limitations.<br /><br />Rhys

Archive 05-18-2008 05:53 PM

Who is the one player who most deserves to be in the HOF?
 
Posted By: <b>Rawn Hill</b><p>How about Carrigan as a manager? Lefty, should already be there.<br /><br />Rawn

Archive 05-18-2008 05:56 PM

Who is the one player who most deserves to be in the HOF?
 
Posted By: <b>Steve Dawson</b><p>Bert Blyleven!<br /><br /><br /><br />Steve

Archive 05-18-2008 06:05 PM

Who is the one player who most deserves to be in the HOF?
 
Posted By: <b>Chris Counts</b><p>He's not on your list, but my vote for the best player not in the HOF (and Bill James' choice, as well) is Minnie Minoso ...

Archive 05-18-2008 06:24 PM

Who is the one player who most deserves to be in the HOF?
 
Posted By: <b>Bill</b><p>Blyleven

Archive 05-18-2008 06:45 PM

Who is the one player who most deserves to be in the HOF?
 
Posted By: <b>paul</b><p>Sam Leever.

Archive 05-18-2008 07:41 PM

Who is the one player who most deserves to be in the HOF?
 
Posted By: <b>boxingcardman</b><p>Don Newcombe told me a great story about Minoso. While they were all in spring training in Fl the black players had to eat at segregated restaurants while off their teams' facilities. There wasn't a lot of choice so they usually ended up at the same place. Minoso liked the chicken there and the others would take turns distracting him and taking pieces off his plate. Finally, one day Minoso got his plate, spit on each piece and said in a mixture of Spanish and English, in essence, let's see you SOBs take my chicken now! <br><br>Sic Gorgiamus Allos Subjectatos Nunc


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