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Archive 06-17-2006 02:35 PM

Broadleaf 460 vs Wagner T-206s (relative scarcity)
 
Posted By: <b>E. Angyal</b><p>Hey all,<br /><br />Im contemplating picking up a Broadleaf 460 back for my T-206 back collection and it got me to wondering if there are more BL 460 cards in existence or if there are more Honus Wagners. I know estimates are only about 75 to 100 Wagners in existance. Any guess as to how many BL 460's out there? I only know of the following based on recent cards for sale - and i'm sure there are a lot of others:<br /><br />Cobb - Red<br />Dougherty - arm in air<br />O'Leary - hands on knees<br />Joss - Pitching<br />Willis - Pitching<br /><br />Can anyone chime in on other confirmed BL 460s? Art M, Scott B, Dan M? This fits with some of the other recent threads on available front/back combo's. Thanks in advance,<br /><br />Eric <br />

Archive 06-17-2006 02:44 PM

Broadleaf 460 vs Wagner T-206s (relative scarcity)
 
Posted By: <b>E. Angyal</b><p>I should have done a search of old posts. I see there is already quite a bit of info to answer my question.

Archive 06-17-2006 06:09 PM

Broadleaf 460 vs Wagner T-206s (relative scarcity)
 
Posted By: <b>Dan Koochin</b><p>I've got a Broadleaf 460 of Jake Stahl. I've seen<br />about 12 or so. Theres more than that out there,<br />hard to say what total number in existance there is. <br />

Archive 06-18-2006 10:45 AM

Broadleaf 460 vs Wagner T-206s (relative scarcity)
 
Posted By: <b>Jimmy Z</b><p>You say you saw those cards for sale recently. Where was that? I'd love to have been able to bid on a Cobb Broadleaf 460.

Archive 06-18-2006 04:58 PM

Broadleaf 460 vs Wagner T-206s (relative scarcity)
 
Posted By: <b>Jim Rivera</b><p>Cobb 460 = SVA<br /><br />You probably won't see this one come up at auction anytime soon-as the collector who won it collects Cobb with as many different backs as possible!

Archive 06-18-2006 05:05 PM

Broadleaf 460 vs Wagner T-206s (relative scarcity)
 
Posted By: <b>Brian E.</b><p>Jimmy:<br /><br />To answer your question specifically, the Cobb BL 460 sold at last year's Clean Sweep Auction for around 5K with juice, I was the winner. The card is very beat up and currently resides in a SGC Authentic holder. If I'm not mistaken, it was previously owned by at least 2-3 other board members and may have resided in a PSA 1 holder at some point. Best I can tell is that it is the only BL 460 Cobb. If you want a little more history on this card specifically, do a quick search on this forum for: cobb broadleaf<br /><br />Brian E.

Archive 06-18-2006 05:34 PM

Broadleaf 460 vs Wagner T-206s (relative scarcity)
 
Posted By: <b>Brian Weisner</b><p><br /> Hi Eric,<br /> Here are the confirmed poses I have with Broadleaf 460 backs:<br />Mordecai Brown Chicago (HOF)<br />Al Burch (fielding)<br />Ty Cobb Red Portrait (HOF)<br />Ty Cobb Bat off Shoulder (HOF)<br />Harry Davis (Philadelphia, Davis on front)<br />Patsy Dougherty (arm in air)<br />Tom Downey (batting)<br />Johnny Evers Chicago (yellow sky) (HOF)<br />Clark Griffith Batting (HOF)<br />Walter Johnson Glove at Chest (R) (HOF)<br />Addie Joss Hands at Chest (HOF)<br />Red Kleinow Boston<br />Ed Konetchy (glove near ground)<br />Christy Mathewson Dark Cap (HOF)<br />Harry McIntyre (Brooklyn & Chicago)<br />George Mullin (with bat)<br />Danny Murphy (batting)<br />Charley O'Leary (hands on knees)<br />Ed Reulbach (no glove showing)<br />Nap Rucker (throwing)<br />Germany Schaefer (Washington)<br />Cy Seymour (throwing)<br />Fred Snodgrass (catching)<br />Jake Stahl (glove shows)<br />Gabby Street (catching)<br />Jeff Sweeney (New York)<br />Vic Willis Throwing<br />I may have missed a few, but not too many. I would say there are more 460's than Wagners, as I have seen more than one of every card on the list including both Cobb's, including 4 of the Red Background. I have also seen more O'leary's than anyone else.<br /> Be well Brian <br />

Archive 06-18-2006 06:01 PM

Broadleaf 460 vs Wagner T-206s (relative scarcity)
 
Posted By: <b>bigfish</b><p>There is also a Cy Young glove showing out there

Archive 06-18-2006 06:11 PM

Broadleaf 460 vs Wagner T-206s (relative scarcity)
 
Posted By: <b>Brian Weisner</b><p> Your right Toby,<br /> The Young and the Matty that sold in Mastro a few auctions ago were both found at the same time. I have Beautiful scans of both, but they are too big to post. Be well Brian <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1150589422.JPG"> <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Cool it worked......

Archive 06-18-2006 06:12 PM

Broadleaf 460 vs Wagner T-206s (relative scarcity)
 
Posted By: <b>peter ullman</b><p>wow...that cy is a beaut. <br /><br />pete in mn

Archive 06-18-2006 06:15 PM

Broadleaf 460 vs Wagner T-206s (relative scarcity)
 
Posted By: <b>Wesley</b><p>It is interesting to read that four or five Cobb red portraits are known with the BL 460 back.

Archive 06-18-2006 08:00 PM

Broadleaf 460 vs Wagner T-206s (relative scarcity)
 
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