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Posted By: <b>Todd Schultz</b><p>Aren't S74 whites considered to be of far lesser value when they lack the paper backing? This one looks nice and is a HOFer, but there is no paper--can this be considered nm-mt without the backing?<br /><br /><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8784148646&rd=1&sspage name=STRK%3AMEWA%3APIC&rd=1" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8784148646&rd=1&sspage name=STRK%3AMEWA%3APIC&rd=1</a>

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Posted By: <b>David Smith</b><p>Not only does the silk NOT have the backing but there is fraying at the top from threads missing.

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Posted By: <b>Judge Dred (Fred)</b><p>I think most collectors accept the silks without the backings. The backings do add a pretty good premium. As you might already be aware, the color silks were issued without the paper backs. There are different manufacturers represented for the paper backed silks.

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Posted By: <b>John S</b><p>Very interesting. I saw a Cobb w/o backing go for $200 and change about a year ago. My personal opinion on the silks, if they are missing the backing they should not be graded or downgraded significantly.

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Posted By: <b>Patrick McMenemy</b><p>Although it is true that colored silks are normally found without backing, several have been found with the backing.<br />David Festberg had several in one of his auctions about 6-8 years back including a Charles Dooin.<br /><br />Patrick

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Posted By: <b>Todd Schultz</b><p>Patrick, do you know if the colors with backs also showed a brand and factory number printed on the front?

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Posted By: <b>Joe</b><p>The silks that should have backs and don't have them are damaged, that grade of 8 is not right. Should be at least 1/2 of that grade. I also would like to know if the colored silks that had paper backs had the advertising on the top and bottom?<br /><br />Joe

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Posted By: <b>Patrick McMenemy</b><p>Sorry, I do not know. The lot description simply mentioned how rare it was to have backings on colored silks. <br /><br />Patrick

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Posted By: <b>Todd Schultz</b><p>but is it possible to "reback" these silks with the paper from a lesser player card? Is this a concern among collectors of this issue?

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Posted By: <b>Patrick McMenemy</b><p>In response to Joe's question, the colored silks with backing had the normal advertising on the front of the silks, but I do not know if anything was on the backing.<br /><br />Patrick

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Posted By: <b>Art M.</b><p>The color silks were issued without any backing. The manufacturer (Old Mill, Turkey Red, Red Sun, Helmar) were printed on the front of the silk along with the factory information.<br />The white silks were issued with backing and all of the above information was printed on the paper backing.

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Posted By: <b>andy becker</b><p>hey fellas,<br />the silk in question is overgraded by 6 grades (maybe 7) , imo. it should be a one or two grade....no higher. <br />a white silk without the back is no better than good condition. talk about buying the holder....sheeeesh.<br /><br />regarding color solks with backings, i believe that those were some type of proofs.<br />rea had one last spring, red silk with a backing.<br />the color silks with back have a "chip board" back versus a white silk which has a cardboard back.<br />the chip board backs are common in the actress series.<br /><br />regarding rebacking of white silks, i have seen one crude attempt....a cobb, if i recall. it was at last years national. <br />silks would not easily be rebacked, as the width would have to match exactly. <br />regards<br /><br /><br />