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Posted By: warshawlawCan any Obak experts out there offer any insight as to why these cards are so vivid, even compared to T206? In art terms, they have a luminosity that makes the images jump right off the card at you, like an oil painting rendered with lots of washes. <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1120826105.JPG"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1120826219.JPG">

Posted By: Peter ThomasI think the printing ink is entirely different. Obaks have a lacquer like surface that leads to crazing on many of them, T206's and 205's have a more pastel finish, T207's also have similar lacquer like finish, but not vibrant colors like Obaks.

Posted By: Ted ZanidakisADAM W. Like Peter Thomas, I am no expert on these cards; However, I have had many of the OBAKs over the years. And, every one them exhibit more vivid colors than the T205 and T206 cards. This is really evident, especially, in the detailed backgrounds of the OBAKs. The detailed backgrounds of the T206 cards are not as distinct, and many are usually "fuzzy". The Allen & Ginters cards and the N162 Goodwins were produced in New York printing firms. And, I think the T205-6 cards were also. The OBAKs, is my understanding, were produced elsewhere. And, certainly at a higher quality printing firm.

Posted By: Tim Newcomb<img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1120833968.JPG">

Posted By: tbobThe 1909 Obaks are quite different from the 1910 and 1911 series cards. The colors on the '09s are very muted, more pastel and don't have the eye appeal of the 10s and 11s. They are also a jillion times harder to find.

Posted By: BrianMy understanding is that 1910's have a certain 'gloss' and they are the first cards to have such. Certainly the 1909, 1910, and 1911 obaks all have their unique characteristics... 1909 <img src="http://home.insightbb.com/~scantland/1909Obak/T212-1_Reidy_Front.jpg"> <img src="http://home.insightbb.com/~scantland/1909Obak/T212-1_Hogan_Front.jpg"> <img src="http://home.insightbb.com/~scantland/1909Obak/T212-1_Nagle_Front.jpg"> <img src="http://home.insightbb.com/~scantland/1909Obak/T212-1_Howard_Front.jpg"> <img src="http://home.insightbb.com/~scantland/1909Obak/T212-1_Brashear_Front.jpg"> 1910 <img src="http://home.insightbb.com/~scantland/obak1910/1910_Christian_sgc_3.jpg"> <img src="http://home.insightbb.com/~scantland/obak1910/1910_Hunt_sgc_3.jpg"> <img src="http://home.insightbb.com/~scantland/obak1910/1910_Blackenship_sgc_4.jpg"> <img src="http://home.insightbb.com/~scantland/obak1910/1910_Jansen_psa_5mk.jpg"> 1911 <img src="http://home.insightbb.com/~scantland/obak1911/1911_Ross_sgc_80.jpg"> <img src="http://home.insightbb.com/~scantland/obak1911/1911_Bloomfield_Raw.jpg"> <img src="http://home.insightbb.com/~scantland/obak1911/1911_Brashear_Raw.jpg"> <img src="http://home.insightbb.com/~scantland/obak1911/1911_Hogan_Raw.jpg">

Posted By: warshawlawI have a funny feeling I will be chasing more than Phil Cooney's card at the National...

Posted By: JohnBrian; Amazing cards! WoW! I just love these cards great collection you have. Brian how come your 1910 Obaks look so good and mine looks like Krapp? <img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/piojohn3/smileys/websize/obak.jpg">

Posted By: Bob RousseauI deterred away from T206s for a spell and was acquiring Obaks. I loved the images = players out in big fields with buildings only faintly behind them, and usually vibrant skies, and living in Seattle, I loved the Pacific NW connection.

Posted By: BrianWonka -- that is a personal problem me thinks. Are you going to Nationals? Brian

Posted By: Bruce Babcock<img src="http://homepage.mac.com/thurber51/.Pictures/20th%20Tobacco/1911%20Obak%20Zamlock.JPG"> <img src="http://homepage.mac.com/thurber51/.Pictures/20th%20Tobacco/Obak%20Weaver.JPG">

Posted By: tbobIn 1995 at the St. Louis National I couldn't decide between an EXMT 1911 Obak Weaver in EXMT with a diamond cut for $75 or a VGEX one for $75. I ended up spending the $75 on some card that is probably still worth $75 today <img src="/images/sad.gif" height=14 width=14> I finally decided on the VGEX one and when I went back later in the day it was gone. I thought the EXMT one with the diamond cut was not that great of a buy. Anyone here end up with either of those? Now my 1911 Obak set is complete with a F-G one that cost more than $75. Shrewd business acumen, huh?

Posted By: quanalways love hearing stories about your mis-adventures, they never get old <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>. bruce, you always have such nice stuff that you bought for $20 max 10-15 years ago, I'm VERY jealous!