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Archive 02-09-2005 07:57 AM

Mastro auction 2/14 - 2/24 ... question
 
Posted By: <b>Hal Lewis</b><p>I read somewhere (PSA website?) that the upcoming Mastro Collector's Classic aution in February would START on the internet for bidding on 2/14.<br /><br />Normally they put up the web site for a preview for a few days BEFORE the bidding actually starts so that everyone has time to "shop"...<br /><br />so does ANYONE know when the "catalog" will be up and running on the internet for us to review???

Archive 02-09-2005 09:01 AM

Mastro auction 2/14 - 2/24 ... question
 
Posted By: <b>ockday</b><p>According to Ron Oser of Mastronet..it goes online Monday 2/14. <br />Of interest to Paul, there will be an OJ McPhee. Good luck!<br />Alan

Archive 02-09-2005 09:05 AM

Mastro auction 2/14 - 2/24 ... question
 
Posted By: <b>Hal Lewis</b><p>I need some time to SHOP before it opens!!!<br /><br /><img src="/images/sad.gif" height=14 width=14>

Archive 02-09-2005 09:27 AM

Mastro auction 2/14 - 2/24 ... question
 
Posted By: <b>ockday</b><p>THE CATALOG SHOULD ARRIVE PRIOR TO 2/14

Archive 02-09-2005 09:28 AM

Mastro auction 2/14 - 2/24 ... question
 
Posted By: <b>Hal Lewis</b><p>But I am out of town!<br /><br />I need the internet catalog!<br /><br />Hopefully they will get it up and running before Monday so that I can get organized and set up my budget!

Archive 02-09-2005 09:32 AM

Mastro auction 2/14 - 2/24 ... question
 
Posted By: <b>Andy Baran</b><p>Hal,<br /><br />There will be a 1924 Diaz Ruffing Rookie in the auction, which should be right up your alley.

Archive 02-09-2005 09:53 AM

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Posted By: <b>ockday</b><p>some nice SGC graded OJ's..like McPhee SGC 50 and Hoy SGC 60...lots of Cracker Jacks , T205's T206's, some caramels etc.

Archive 02-09-2005 09:59 AM

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Posted By: <b>Hal Lewis</b><p>What the heck is a Diaz?

Archive 02-09-2005 10:15 AM

Mastro auction 2/14 - 2/24 ... question
 
Posted By: <b>john/z28jd</b><p>Its the Thomas Guitterez cuban card set issued in 1924<br /><br /><a href="http://www.oldcardboard.com/foreign/cuba/gutierrez/gutierrez.asp?cardsetID=1018" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.oldcardboard.com/foreign/cuba/gutierrez/gutierrez.asp?cardsetID=1018</a>

Archive 02-09-2005 10:20 AM

Mastro auction 2/14 - 2/24 ... question
 
Posted By: <b>Julie</b><p>I was chewing them out last auction for charging $75 for catalogues to regular auctions--it's certainly their right (if a little tackey). I mistakenly thought you had to have bid in one of the last 7 to BID without paying $75...<br /><br />Oh well, since bidding is all on the internet, I don't mind looking there.

Archive 02-09-2005 11:01 AM

Mastro auction 2/14 - 2/24 ... question
 
Posted By: <b>Andy Baran</b><p>Diaz is a 1924 Cuban Tobacco Set. The set is from the same company as the Tomas Gutierrez cards that John mentioned, but it is a distinctive set, featuring only major leaguers. The Diaz set is extremely rare, and contains the rookie card of Red Ruffing. The one in the Mastro Auction is from my collection, and it is the only one that I have ever seen. Attached is a lousy scan of the card. I'm sure the scan in the Mastro catalogue will be much clearer.<br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1107975620.JPG">

Archive 02-09-2005 11:13 AM

Mastro auction 2/14 - 2/24 ... question
 
Posted By: <b>Sean Coe</b><p>Its online now.

Archive 02-09-2005 11:30 AM

Mastro auction 2/14 - 2/24 ... question
 
Posted By: <b>Rhett Yeakley</b><p>Here is another scan of a Diaz (Tomas Gutierrez) card, although not a HOF "rookie", it is in a little nicer shape. Extremely tough in any condition, Lipset talks briefly about them in his encyclopedia, not many were known then however. Crazy thing about this set is that the "book value" has remained largely unchanged for nearly 2 decades.<br />-Rhett<br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1107977398.JPG">

Archive 02-09-2005 11:47 AM

Mastro auction 2/14 - 2/24 ... question
 
Posted By: <b>Hal Lewis</b><p>And the reason you consigned it to Mastro instead of just offering it directly to me was what again, Andy??

Archive 02-09-2005 11:51 AM

Mastro auction 2/14 - 2/24 ... question
 
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>He did it so I could extort you on it. If I don't run you up you can leave one little ole N167 HOF for me in coming auctions? .....I really need Andy's card <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> all of these cards will probably surpass my puny budget anyway.....later.

Archive 02-09-2005 12:21 PM

Mastro auction 2/14 - 2/24 ... question
 
Posted By: <b>Hal Lewis</b><p>Come on, Leon.<br /><br />I didn't run you up on the "Two of Diamonds" !!!<br /><br /><img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

Archive 02-09-2005 12:24 PM

Mastro auction 2/14 - 2/24 ... question
 
Posted By: <b>Andy Baran</b><p>Hal,<br /><br />The reason that I consigned it rather than offering it to you is that I really have no idea of the value. These cards are extremely rare, and the price guides are not accurate. Rather than arbitrarily coming up with a number, I thought the most fair thing to do would be to let the market dictate the value.<br />

Archive 02-09-2005 12:26 PM

Mastro auction 2/14 - 2/24 ... question
 
Posted By: <b>Hal Lewis</b><p>fair, schmair

Archive 02-09-2005 12:26 PM

Mastro auction 2/14 - 2/24 ... question
 
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>that was funny......I actually LOL.....thanks man<br /><br />ps....it was the response about the 2 playing card that I laughed at....a post got stuck in between.....fair shmair wasn't that funny <img src="/images/sad.gif" height=14 width=14>

Archive 02-09-2005 02:40 PM

Mastro auction 2/14 - 2/24 ... question
 
Posted By: <b>Bruce Babcock</b><p><img src="http://homepage.mac.com/thurber51/.Pictures/20th%20Tobacco/4DiazCigs.jpg"><br /><br />Here's another one. The only one that I've ever actually seen in person. An uncommon card, but also a low demand set. I won this in a Ron Oser auction. There were only 2 bidders. <br /><br />There are Diaz cards of Johnson, Alexander, Pennock, Rixey, Grimes and Hoyt. Anybody got one?

Archive 02-09-2005 03:22 PM

Mastro auction 2/14 - 2/24 ... question
 
Posted By: <b>Ryan Christoff</b><p>Okay, okay:<br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1107991299.JPG"> <br /><br />-Ryan<br /><br />

Archive 02-09-2005 03:32 PM

Mastro auction 2/14 - 2/24 ... question
 
Posted By: <b>warshawlaw</b><p>Has to be available in the USA to be a rookie card, IMHO. Nice items though.

Archive 02-09-2005 03:54 PM

Mastro auction 2/14 - 2/24 ... question
 
Posted By: <b>Hal Lewis</b><p>Ryan plays the trump card...<br /><br />and a hush falls over the stunned crowd!<br /><br />Wow. Great card.

Archive 02-09-2005 04:00 PM

Mastro auction 2/14 - 2/24 ... question
 
Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p><img src="http://images.mastronet.com/images/Auction28/photographs/34923a.jpg"><br /><br />.<br />.<br />.<br /><img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

Archive 02-09-2005 04:22 PM

Mastro auction 2/14 - 2/24 ... question
 
Posted By: <b>john/z28jd</b><p>Who would want a card of that bum?

Archive 02-09-2005 04:25 PM

Mastro auction 2/14 - 2/24 ... question
 
Posted By: <b>Hal Lewis</b><p>John:<br /><br />Was that you who bought the really nice version of this N167 Corcoran in the Robert Edwards auction last year...<br /><br />or are you still in the market for the current one in Mastro?

Archive 02-09-2005 04:35 PM

Mastro auction 2/14 - 2/24 ... question
 
Posted By: <b>Julie</b><p>?

Archive 02-09-2005 04:38 PM

Mastro auction 2/14 - 2/24 ... question
 
Posted By: <b>Bill Cornell</b><p><i>Anybody besides me think that Corcoran is a fake?</i><br /><br />Mr. Murcerfan would probably disagree, right after he got over the shock of that statement.

Archive 02-09-2005 04:39 PM

Mastro auction 2/14 - 2/24 ... question
 
Posted By: <b>john/z28jd</b><p>No the one in Robert Edwards went for 11k and was bought by someone on the board.<br /><br />Id rather have that Corcoran from the set TIK has that you should buy Hal! you know which one <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

Archive 02-09-2005 04:47 PM

Mastro auction 2/14 - 2/24 ... question
 
Posted By: <b>Hal Lewis</b><p>John:<br /><br />TIK sent me real-sized color copies of the "cabinet/proofs" from that set...<br /><br />and many of them are so faded that they are not too pleasing. <br /><br />You will need to find someone else to partner up with on that set! <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

Archive 02-09-2005 04:48 PM

Mastro auction 2/14 - 2/24 ... question
 
Posted By: <b>Jay Miller</b><p>How about the mono and the lot of 13 different year Zeenuts with tabs?

Archive 02-09-2005 04:50 PM

Mastro auction 2/14 - 2/24 ... question
 
Posted By: <b>john/z28jd</b><p>Well then yes i will go for this one Hal,seeing as a psa6 of this card went for 11k,as long as a fair one goes for around half that then ill win it and then try to trade it to TIK for the cabinet <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

Archive 02-09-2005 05:02 PM

Mastro auction 2/14 - 2/24 ... question
 
Posted By: <b>PASJD</b><p>I hope we are not heading for another "before" and "after" as with the Keeler cabinet in Mastro's last auction. I hope all that is "clearer" is the scan, or if work is done, it is disclosed.

Archive 02-09-2005 05:35 PM

Mastro auction 2/14 - 2/24 ... question
 
Posted By: <b>Homerunfaker</b><p>Leon wrote:<br />...."If I don't run you up you can leave one little ole N167 HOF for me in coming auctions?" <br /><br />whose running this joint anyways?<br /><br />

Archive 02-09-2005 05:41 PM

Mastro auction 2/14 - 2/24 ... question
 
Posted By: <b>Julie Vognar</b><p>I don't have that Hoy card...

Archive 02-09-2005 05:44 PM

Mastro auction 2/14 - 2/24 ... question
 
Posted By: <b>marty</b><p>I got my catalogue in the mail today.

Archive 02-09-2005 05:47 PM

Mastro auction 2/14 - 2/24 ... question
 
Posted By: <b>Jim Clarke</b><p>After reading all these wonderful threads...I must come out of the closet and say I'm the lucky one that overpaid on the N167 Corcoran PSA 6 Old Judge card from REA. I would be interested in partnering up on a few lots.. Have to figure out what I need and want. JC

Archive 02-09-2005 05:48 PM

Mastro auction 2/14 - 2/24 ... question
 
Posted By: <b>Paul</b><p>Wow, I've become famous through my incessant whining. Thank you very much for the tip about the McPhee. I wasn't aware of it.<br /><br />Hal, you really don't want that Ruffing. It's from Cuba. For that reason, it probably qualifies as contraband, and the government will confiscate it from you. Besides, I want it.

Archive 02-09-2005 05:56 PM

Mastro auction 2/14 - 2/24 ... question
 
Posted By: <b>justcallmedummy</b><p>Your Corcoran may not have been all that overpriced...in a few short years it could look like a bargain...I wish I could have afforded it.<br />.<br />.<br />it must be on your short list of favorite cards?<br />

Archive 02-09-2005 05:59 PM

Mastro auction 2/14 - 2/24 ... question
 
Posted By: <b>PASJD</b><p>Does the Mastro catalog mention anything about the outside conservator or, as to any lots, disclose any "cleaning," "stablization," or other work that was done?

Archive 02-09-2005 06:03 PM

Mastro auction 2/14 - 2/24 ... question
 
Posted By: <b>Paul</b><p>This auction is my want list. Aside from the McPhee, there's a poor condition N172 Delahanty, Andy's Red Ruffing, an E94 Young, a Leaf Paige. Geez. I could spend a full year's budget on this one auction, buying only things I've specifically asked for on this board.

Archive 02-09-2005 06:16 PM

Mastro auction 2/14 - 2/24 ... question
 
Posted By: <b>Hal Lewis</b><p>Seriously:<br /><br />I will stay away from the Paige and other cards...<br /><br />if you stay away from the Ruffing.<br /><br />(Sorry Andy!)

Archive 02-09-2005 06:43 PM

Mastro auction 2/14 - 2/24 ... question
 
Posted By: <b>Andy Baran</b><p>1.) Many of the cards that you guys are mentioning are mine, so bid high! No collusion allowed.<br /><br />2.) The scan of the Ruffing is lousy because my scanner sucked. It is now broken. Mastro took a much better scan. The card is in poor condition. I can't imagine that anyone is thinking it was restored. Look at it again.

Archive 02-09-2005 07:32 PM

Mastro auction 2/14 - 2/24 ... question
 
Posted By: <b>PASJD</b><p>I have now seen the scan of the Ruffing and am glad to see it is indeed the same card you consigned in the same condition. I certainly did not intend to suggest otherwise, was just expressing hope prior to having seen the Mastro scan (I did not know it was already available online). I also hope the same is true for all the other lots in the auction, or that where any work has been done it is disclosed.

Archive 02-09-2005 11:22 PM

Mastro auction 2/14 - 2/24 ... question
 
Posted By: <b>Julie Vognar</b><p>If that Old Judge is poor, most of mine are unspeakable...<br /><br />Unless you don't believe what it says about NOT trimmed...

Archive 02-10-2005 06:51 AM

Mastro auction 2/14 - 2/24 ... question
 
Posted By: <b>Andy Baran</b><p>Julie,<br /><br />There are 2 Old Judge Delahanty's in the auction.

Archive 02-14-2005 03:24 PM

Mastro auction 2/14 - 2/24 ... question
 
Posted By: <b>Paul</b><p>Hal, the Mastro price for Andy's Ruffing is too rich for my blood. It's all yours, if you can fight off the other folks bidding on it. I will be very happy with my 1925 Exhibit Ruffing.<br /><br />Andy, what a fool I am. I can't remember what you offered that card to me for a year ago, but it was sure less than what you will get now. Shame on you for not offering it to me again before consigning it to someone who will actually get you every penny possible for the card.

Archive 02-14-2005 03:27 PM

Mastro auction 2/14 - 2/24 ... question
 
Posted By: <b>Hal Lewis</b><p>If only Andy were a socialist or a communist.<br /><br />This "capitalism" is going to his head.<br /><br /><img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />

Archive 02-16-2005 03:44 PM

Mastro auction 2/14 - 2/24 ... question
 
Posted By: <b>nquinn</b><p>How about the mono and the lot of 13 different year Zeenuts with tabs?<br /><br />Where did you hear about these?

Archive 02-16-2005 04:46 PM

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Posted By: <b>Mark Tylicki</b><p><a href="http://www.rustywilly.com/largecards/LyonsTed.htm" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.rustywilly.com/largecards/LyonsTed.htm</a>


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