The Big Train Jersey In Heritage Auctions
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I am sure many have seen this, but this must be, at least, one of the best jersey's of Walter existent? Thoughts on final price? It's out of my league, by at least a few comma's... :) Their estimate is 3M...
I guess 2.82M after juice...(card not included in sale!!) To get back to cards on the front page- Show a card and/or memborabila of his and/or guess the final price of the jersey, if you care to? https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball-c...umbnail-071515 . |
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I was reading the auction description the other day - that is amazing!
My favorite WaJo card, along with a signed letter circa 1910.... |
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Incredible Jersey. I'll go 3.1 w/juice. - |
I will go 2.1. I think the three million types are spending it on Ruth, not Johnson.
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no idea what it will bring...
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It’s really 1 of a kind, could see an MLB titan or ownership splashing out $3MM.
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Reading the description of the jersey makes it even more mind blowing. If I’m reading it right Johnson was wearing this as the pitcher when Ruth got his first hit as a Yankee.
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TonyETrade with a PSA 8 next to my shirt at the 2023 National in Rosemont |
I'm guessing $2.26mm.
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How do you even put a price on that? Only one known outside of the Baseball HOF? If I had won the billion-dollar lottery, I would not think twice about dropping $3 million on that. Amazing.
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What’s my prize???
QUOTE=4815162342;2435296]I believe the price is $2.01MM https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball-c.../50069-82172.s Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro[/QUOTE] |
I figured they were dreaming about north of three, but to paraphrase Tip O'Neill, "A million here, a million there, and pretty soon you're talking about real money..."
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Who would even have thought to try to photomatch it to a photo from this particular date? And for experts in the field, is this a convincing photomatch?
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I haven't read all of the promotional material they're using to sell the piece, but do they address the fact that the 'W' insignia on the sleeve is distinctly different from the one in the photo they are matching it to?
Was it claimed to have been added/replaced later or something??? Attachment 622009 |
Certainly does look thinner in the vintage photo, doesn't it? Hmmm...
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And yet, they are claiming the size of the W relative to the stripes is another reason to believe it was Walter's jersey, even though the W looks thinner in the picture they show. |
Imagine spending $2 million on some kind of a relic and knowledgeable people with no skin in the game are like "yeah. . .I don't know . . .I'm not sure that is what they said it was. . . ."
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The thin W on the shoulder looks like it was used from 1916-1919 (earlier years seem to wear is slightly lower on the arm? Can't tell for certain). While I don't think the photo match is right I do think the Jersey is Walters 1920 Jersey.
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And here I thought cards were dicey. This stuff you simply have to buy into a tale. Not the first time we have seen this either. |
This is why I don't buy game worn jerseys and prefer autographed checks to signed cards unless there's some real provenance.
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Agree. Bought a 1952 signed Ty Cobb check in 2006. Liked how Francis Cobb also signed the back. |
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Pinstripe Jerseys are like fingerprints- the way the fabric is cut and seamed. The above side by side photo analysis of the WaJo Jersey looks like a match to me (and apparently Heritage, and to the authentication company too)...Re: the W, can't speak to that, possibly replaced sometime over the last 100 years, which is very common with numbers, letters and patches on vintage Jerseys. I know it says it's originally, but that might be an oversight(?), as it was likely replaced (which I don't think impacts the overall value at all). Or, finally, the original photo is an action shot, there's movement of his body, part of his body (right arm) is blurry. It's possible it's the same W but the movement of his body has blurred or distorted some of the details.
For reference, I have a Derek Jeter Game Used Jersey from his final season. Photo-matched to 2 games. It's very well-documented and was just on exhibit for a year at Yankee Stadium's Museum. You can see how the pinstripes interact with the NY Logo and #2, and the interaction at the seams. These are the details authenticators are looking at for photo-matching. |
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I'm not an "expert" but I am qualified to look at the photo that JollyElm posted and say that the area in the right oval does not match in my opinion, and the W certainly looks different in each of them. I would also question what the difference is between an "expert" and the homeless guy I gave a dollar to yesterday, when it comes to their ability to differentiate those, or any, photos. I'm with Snapoli1 and CalvinDog when it comes to my thoughts. It's certainly seems to be a cool old Senators jersey, as for the rest of it... Doug |
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How much of that sale price is due to the "photomatch" does anyone know what a Johnson jersey would otherwise sell for?
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https://www.sportscollectorsdaily.co...swat-erickson/ https://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions...8/lot.168.html |
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