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oldjudge 03-29-2024 01:48 PM

King of Collectibles?
 
I just got an email from Goldin Auctions entitled "King of Collectibles Invites You to Bid". LOL, did I miss a coronation?

Yoda 03-29-2024 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by oldjudge (Post 2423190)
I just got an email from Goldin Auctions entitled "King of Collectibles Invites You to Bid". LOL, did I miss a coronation?

Sort of like King Richard III.

Peter_Spaeth 03-29-2024 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by oldjudge (Post 2423190)
I just got an email from Goldin Auctions entitled "King of Collectibles Invites You to Bid". LOL, did I miss a coronation?

Ken has called himself that for quite some time, I believe.

Peter_Spaeth 03-29-2024 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 2423191)
Sort of like King Richard III.

OK that sailed right past me?

raulus 03-29-2024 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2423194)
OK that sailed right past me?

Could be a reference to Richard's ruthlessness.

JollyElm 03-29-2024 02:17 PM

Some Shakespearean scholars claim the original line in his first draft was actually, "My kingdom for a T206 common!!"

Leon 03-29-2024 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by oldjudge (Post 2423190)
I just got an email from Goldin Auctions entitled "King of Collectibles Invites You to Bid". LOL, did I miss a coronation?

I like Ken (hi Ken) and we talk sometimes, but I get this flashback of the King before him.

Where has Brian gone? He and I always got along fine....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrLxi8gy67o


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Leon 03-29-2024 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2423194)
OK that sailed right past me?

and everyone one else...

scooter729 03-29-2024 02:59 PM

Apparently you guys haven't seen the Goldin series on Netflix called King of Collectibles ??

G1911 03-29-2024 03:14 PM

In the play, through trickery and depravity while posing as a devout and modest man, Richard makes himself King illegitimately. As part of the saga he has his nephew, the rightful king, murdered in the tower where a King was traditionally to stay before his coronation. Richard's reign is short, and he dies ingloriously, deserted by many of his followers on the field, begging for a horse.
I am determined to prove a villain,
And hate the idle pleasures of these days.
Plots I have laid, inductions dangerous,
By drunken prophecies, libels and dreams


I presume the literary illusion was to the dubious ethics and doubtful legitimacy of the self-proclaimed king's.

Peter_Spaeth 03-29-2024 03:27 PM

Bloody thou art, bloody will be thy end.

maniac_73 03-29-2024 03:28 PM

Give Ken credit hes a fantastic marketer

rhettyeakley 03-29-2024 03:36 PM

King of a kingdom of 10’s of people 🤣

h2oya311 03-29-2024 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by scooter729 (Post 2423212)
Apparently you guys haven't seen the Goldin series on Netflix called King of Collectibles ??

This. He is referring to his series on Netflix.

Yoda 03-29-2024 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by G1911 (Post 2423213)
In the play, through trickery and depravity while posing as a devout and modest man, Richard makes himself King illegitimately. As part of the saga he has his nephew, the rightful king, murdered in the tower where a King was traditionally to stay before his coronation. Richard's reign is short, and he dies ingloriously, deserted by many of his followers on the field, begging for a horse.
I am determined to prove a villain,
And hate the idle pleasures of these days.
Plots I have laid, inductions dangerous,
By drunken prophecies, libels and dreams


I presume the literary illusion was to the dubious ethics and doubtful legitimacy of the self-proclaimed king's.

Greg, spot on, if a bit over-the-top analogy by me. A couple of unpleasant incidents made me draw the comparison.

Yoda 03-29-2024 08:15 PM

Richard III was also a hunchback, but I make no inferences by that fact. Just for the record.

Peter_Spaeth 03-29-2024 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 2423274)
Richard III was also a hunchback, but I make no inferences by that fact. Just for the record.

As immortalized in the opening lines.

But I, that am not shaped for sportive tricks,
Nor made to court an amorous looking-glass;
I, that am rudely stamp’d, and want love’s majesty
To strut before a wanton ambling nymph;

G1911 03-29-2024 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 2423272)
Greg, spot on, if a bit over-the-top analogy by me. A couple of unpleasant incidents made me draw the comparison.

Ha, and they said reading dead poets and playwrights wouldn't do anything for me! I must say I find Shakespeare to be a more insightful writer than whoever wrote the poetry of Ken Goldin

Ken Goldin, Ken Goldin
Look at them cards that he holdin'


True hope is swift, and flies with swallow's wings
Kings it makes gods, and of meaner creatures kings

Casey2296 03-29-2024 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by scooter729 (Post 2423212)
Apparently you guys haven't seen the Goldin series on Netflix called King of Collectibles ??

Ken has always been a very good promoter and it has served him well. Not my cup of tea but you can't knock his results. Props for selling his business at the top of the market.

kengoldin 03-30-2024 08:34 AM

25.5 million people have watched the show on Netflix . It’s been renewed for season 2 , which comes out shortly. Will be running for many years as it’s a profitable show for Netflix.
(as a quick hint, less of the ‘who cares’ stuff like beanie babies in season 2, more hardcore sports collectibles.)
From a goldin standpoint , over half of our registered bidders have registered with goldin AFTER April 28,2023, or meaning 11 months of Netflix has brought in more viewers than all the work I put in marketing goldin auctions from 2012-2023 (and I am an extensive marketer).
So when the marketing team sends out that email with the catchy title, they are appealing to the watchers of the show, as well as the people who may not watch but are aware.
I hope it amuses some of you, and annoys as few of you as possible.
Thanks
Ken

FrankWakefield 03-30-2024 05:34 PM

Mr. Goldin, congratulations on your show's success!

Lorewalker 03-30-2024 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by kengoldin (Post 2423332)
25.5 million people have watched the show on Netflix . It’s been renewed for season 2 , which comes out shortly. Will be running for many years as it’s a profitable show for Netflix.
(as a quick hint, less of the ‘who cares’ stuff like beanie babies in season 2, more hardcore sports collectibles.)
From a goldin standpoint , over half of our registered bidders have registered with goldin AFTER April 28,2023, or meaning 11 months of Netflix has brought in more viewers than all the work I put in marketing goldin auctions from 2012-2023 (and I am an extensive marketer).
So when the marketing team sends out that email with the catchy title, they are appealing to the watchers of the show, as well as the people who may not watch but are aware.
I hope it amuses some of you, and annoys as few of you as possible.
Thanks
Ken

Loved the show. Will be watching season 2.

kengoldin 03-30-2024 10:17 PM

Thank you both frank and chase
Greatly appreciated

Exhibitman 03-30-2024 11:07 PM

I saw it and thought it was from a Nigerian prince.

LEHR 03-31-2024 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by maniac_73 (Post 2423215)
Give Ken credit he's a fantastic marketer

Yes he is. Like a modern day Mr. Mint.

I always tell people that you need to be your own biggest self promotor; because if you don't believe it and promote it yourself, it's a fact that no one else will.

dstudeba 03-31-2024 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by LEHR (Post 2423571)
Yes he is. Like a modern day Mr. Mint.

Very true, and I have to imagine there are some people who see that as a positive.

packs 03-31-2024 10:46 AM

I thought the show was fun enough to watch. Netflix has dabbled in the collectibles reality show realm a few times and I've liked what they've done. They did another show Slobby's World that was about this flea market hustler personality who was really into Starter jackets and stuff like that. And they had another show called Swap Shop that was sort of like Storage Wars but with flea markets and garage sales.

Snowman 03-31-2024 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kengoldin (Post 2423332)
25.5 million people have watched the show on Netflix . It’s been renewed for season 2 , which comes out shortly. Will be running for many years as it’s a profitable show for Netflix.
(as a quick hint, less of the ‘who cares’ stuff like beanie babies in season 2, more hardcore sports collectibles.)
From a goldin standpoint , over half of our registered bidders have registered with goldin AFTER April 28,2023, or meaning 11 months of Netflix has brought in more viewers than all the work I put in marketing goldin auctions from 2012-2023 (and I am an extensive marketer).
So when the marketing team sends out that email with the catchy title, they are appealing to the watchers of the show, as well as the people who may not watch but are aware.
I hope it amuses some of you, and annoys as few of you as possible.
Thanks
Ken


Is that why you guys had to increase your BP to 22% to help cover the cost of doubling the number of registered bidders on the site? Seems reasonable. I hope more auction houses follow your lead.

Rhotchkiss 03-31-2024 04:15 PM

I just watched the first two episodes while on a train home from
NYC. A few observations:

1. It’s impressive what Ken has built. Congrats.
2. I think the show is a bit misleading bc it does not talk about or explain buyers premiums. You have shots of an “appraisal” at $500k and then it says “possible commission” of $100k, which implies the total cost is $600k, or that the consignor gets $500k and Goldin gets $100k. At the least, it does not show that the hammer and the final price are different, giving the impression the consignor gets the whole amount, which they almost never do. I am watching the episode where the guy with the Steph Curry rookie passed on a $150k cash offer to grade and consign to Goldin. As the second episode ends, it’s unclear whether the card will get the consignor enough and we (do far) are not told whether the current cost/bid includes the BP. Same thing with the Jackie jersey - was the hammer $7.2mm, so $8.65mm with BP, or was the hammer $6mm and $7.2mm with BP? I think it would be better to show, at least in one episode, how an auction actually works.
3. I find it interesting, and frankly refreshing, that the Goldin submitted Curry got a PSA 8. I don’t know if PSA owned Goldin at the time, but if so, that result implies there seems to be a clear separation between the two.

I think it’s a fun show to watch.

Ken, I would love if you got into entertainment memorabilia and other Americana. I think you would be especially successful and competitive with others if you kept the BP to 20%, not the 25% that AHs often charge on this stuff (RR, Heritage Sothebys).


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