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cgjackson222 12-02-2023 11:37 AM

The All One-and-Done HOF voting team (no PEDs)
 
There have been some great players that have only received one shot at a HOF vote.

This list is not to be confused with ones that includes players like Bill Dahlen or Luis Tiant that have had multiple chances/votes.

I am not advocating that any of these players belong in the HOF (though some of them probably do), but it is a bit surprising how few votes many of the players received.

The %s listed are what % of the vote the players got in the one year they were voted on:

1B) Tie: Will Clark (4.4%) and John Olerud (.7%)
2B) Tie: Lou Whitaker (2.9%) and Bobby Grich (2.6%)
SS) Jack Glasscock (2.6%)
3B) Tie: Buddy Bell (1.7%) and Sal Bando (.7%)
LF) Tie: Lance Berkman (1.2%) and Luis Gonzalez (.9%)
CF) Kenny Lofton (3.2%)
RF) Reggie Smith (.7%)
C) Gene Tenace (.2%)
DH) Brian Downing (.4%)
RHSP) Tie: Jim McCormick (no vote), Rick Reuschel (.4%) and David Cone (3.9%), Brett Saberhagen (1.3%)
LHSP) Johan Santana (2.4%) and Chuck Finley (.2%)
RP) Dan Quisenberry (3.8%)

packs 12-02-2023 12:04 PM

Jorge Posada

BobbyStrawberry 12-02-2023 12:11 PM

I'm biased due to my love for the 19th century game but Glasscock and McCormick should both be in the hall!

D. Bergin 12-02-2023 12:17 PM

Willie Randolph at 1.1% is pretty stunning.

G1911 12-02-2023 01:18 PM

Carlos Delgado was another one and done. Got 3.8% and was off the ballot. He probably doesn’t belong but he is close and seems to me to have clearly merited an honest look and analysis rather than the dismissal he got.

G1911 12-02-2023 01:21 PM

Kevin Brown too. 67 WAR, 127 ERA+, 2.1% and done.

Peter_Spaeth 12-02-2023 01:27 PM

Jim Edmonds.

How about one and done but then got in? Ted Simmons.

cgjackson222 12-02-2023 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by G1911 (Post 2393575)
Kevin Brown too. 67 WAR, 127 ERA+, 2.1% and done.

PEDs?

packs 12-02-2023 02:36 PM

I always thought Magglio Ordonez flew way under the radar.

Moises Alou almost certainly deserves a spot on this kind of team. I always thought he was a solid, though not great player. Like a half-step down from Vlad but far better than most.

Peter_Spaeth 12-02-2023 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by packs (Post 2393594)
I always thought Magglio Ordonez flew way under the radar.

He had a couple of big years counting stat wise, and that one year with the huge BA, but career WAR under 40.

packs 12-02-2023 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2393597)
He had a couple of big years counting stat wise, and that one year with the huge BA, but career WAR under 40.

True not a great player. I always liked him. One homer and one RBI away from five straight 30-100 seasons.

Peter_Spaeth 12-02-2023 03:50 PM

At 64 WAR Reggie Smith was one and done.

cgjackson222 12-02-2023 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2393623)
At 64 WAR Reggie Smith was one and done.

that's why he's the RF

Peter_Spaeth 12-02-2023 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by cgjackson222 (Post 2393628)
that's why he's the RF

Ah I missed that.

G1911 12-02-2023 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cgjackson222 (Post 2393578)
PEDs?

Yep; but PED guys usually clear the 5%. Sheffield gets over 50%, plus all the A tier Bonds/Clemens types guys. Andy Pettite has got significant votes (17% last year) as a PED pitcher who was probably not as good as Brown.

cgjackson222 12-02-2023 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by G1911 (Post 2393632)
Yep; but PED guys usually clear the 5%. Sheffield gets over 50%, plus all the A tier Bonds/Clemens types guys. Andy Pettite has got significant votes (17% last year) as a PED pitcher who was probably not as good as Brown.

As the thread title implies, was trying to avoid the PED guys, but I guess they will always come up.

packs 12-02-2023 05:44 PM

Looks like advanced stats are not kind to Alfonso Soriano and Paul Konerko. Both one and done and seemed a lot better when they were playing.

G1911 12-02-2023 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by cgjackson222 (Post 2393634)
As the thread title implies, was trying to avoid the PED guys, but I guess they will always come up.

I apologize.

cgjackson222 12-02-2023 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by G1911 (Post 2393660)
I apologize.

Haha, finally:)

RCMcKenzie 12-02-2023 07:47 PM

Don Mattingly and Fred Lynn were 2 of the best players I ever saw in their prime.

The HOF has all kind of quirky rules that require long periods of batting .275

Gonzo hit 57 hr the year Bonds hit 73.

Mike D. 12-03-2023 06:11 PM

There should be a handful of additional candidates after this year's voting. A lot of "really good, but not Hall of Fame guys" on the list.


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