Net54baseball.com Forums

Net54baseball.com Forums (http://www.net54baseball.com/index.php)
-   Net54baseball Sports (Primarily) Vintage Memorabilia Forum incl. Game Used (http://www.net54baseball.com/forumdisplay.php?f=5)
-   -   Help needed with photo of unknown team (possible All Stars) (http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=293203)

doug.goodman 12-11-2020 01:58 PM

Help needed with photo of unknown team (possible All Stars)
 
1 Attachment(s)
Has anybody ever seen this picture, or have any idea of it's origin?

I have it on a Blum's Bulletin supplement, but it's the only Blum's supplement I have that doesn't have a caption, which seems kind of strange since the numbering of the players in the picture seems to allude to a caption listing the names matching the numbers.

Any help is much appreciated, thank you in advance,
Doug

baseball tourist 12-11-2020 03:47 PM

Guess
 
Eastern League All Stars?

lumberjack 12-11-2020 05:30 PM

photo ID
 
Well, that looks like Chick Gandil in the back row. He was with Montreal in 1911.
lumberjack

doug.goodman 12-11-2020 06:32 PM

Which teams are represented in the photo?

I'm not an expert on uniforms, but here are the ones that I see by player :

1, 10, 14 - unknown 1
2, 17 - Toronto Maple (Leafs?)
3, 8, 16 - (Montreal?)
4, 9 - unknown 2
5, 12 - Providence (Grays?)
6 - unknown 3
7 - x
11, 15 - (Baltimore or Buffalo?)
13 - Jersey City (Skeeters?)

Possibly the Eastern league in 1911, or International League 1912-13-14-15 (unless that's Gandil in the back)?

If we run with Gandil for a minute, 1912 could still work due to him still being with Montreal at the start of the season, and there is a Blum's Bulletin of the Rochester teams for both 1911 and 1912.

Thoughts?

Dto7 12-12-2020 05:24 PM

1 Attachment(s)
This might help.

doug.goodman 12-12-2020 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dto7 (Post 2044727)
This might help.

Good one, where did that come from?

Dto7 12-12-2020 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doug.goodman (Post 2044783)
Good one, where did that come from?

From October 2, 1911, Shreveport Times newspaper

doug.goodman 12-12-2020 11:23 PM

Thank you.

Does anybody have access to the Sporting Life or Sporting News issues from that time frame? Probably last issue in Sept and first two (maybe three) in October 1911?

If so, can you check to see if there is any mention of the game, and maybe even a picture?

Doug

Dto7 12-13-2020 10:51 AM

1 Attachment(s)
It was a series of games played in different cities and whoever won 4 games was the winner.

Dto7 12-13-2020 11:22 AM

2 Attachment(s)
Here you go Doug from the Baltimore Sun Oct 1, 1911. A different pose at Baltimore.

doug.goodman 12-13-2020 11:36 AM

Wow, thank you Don. Looks like you have nailed it, although if we can find the same picture somewhere that would really seal the deal.

Doug

milkit1 12-13-2020 11:43 AM

great work!

ThomasL 12-13-2020 11:57 AM

very cool! I saw that and was 100% saying that is Chick Gandil in the back with a Montreal cap on!

commishbob 12-13-2020 12:02 PM

2 Attachment(s)
From the Sporting News, September 28, 1911 issue Page 5

Hope this is viewable. For the life of me I couldn't get a large enough version uploaded so I linked it from my Imgur pix.

https://i.imgur.com/4UuU8oS.png

Dto7 12-13-2020 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doug.goodman (Post 2044956)
Wow, thank you Don. Looks like you have nailed it, although if we can find the same picture somewhere that would really seal the deal.

Doug

Thanks, Doug!

Dto7 12-13-2020 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkit1 (Post 2044958)
great work!

Thanks, Sean!

ballparks 12-13-2020 03:02 PM

Wtf?!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dto7 (Post 2044727)
This might help.

HOW did you just pull this out of the sky!?!? My jaw is still on the floor. I have no words. Blown away.

You are FREAKIN' AMAZING!

Dto7 12-13-2020 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ballparks (Post 2045019)
HOW did you just pull this out of the sky!?!? My jaw is still on the floor. I have no words. Blown away.

You are FREAKIN' AMAZING!

Thanks, ballparks! Just research people associated with the All-Star game and then go from there. Plus I only had to deal with one year. Then put in a few hours searching and hoping to find something.

ThomasL 12-13-2020 03:51 PM

good work iding it...love this kind of stuff

Mark 12-13-2020 03:59 PM

Very impressive work. We have very resourceful collectors on this site.

Dto7 12-13-2020 06:51 PM

1 Attachment(s)
Another pose from the Buffalo Times

ballparks 12-13-2020 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dto7 (Post 2045026)
Thanks, ballparks! Just research people associated with the All-Star game and then go from there. Plus I only had to deal with one year. Then put in a few hours searching and hoping to find something.

How did you get access to the older news papers?

Dto7 12-14-2020 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ballparks (Post 2045171)
How did you get access to the older news papers?

The Libary of Congress has free newspapers online you can use or you can use a subscription-based online service for newspapers.

GoCubsGo32 12-14-2020 08:07 AM

Cool piece & excellent research!! Great job!


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:53 AM.