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KaiserCurt 04-30-2020 07:02 PM

Possible eBay Fraud?
 
Seller has no feedback, this is his only item. If a unsuspecting person were to buy this card, they’d probably be out 25 large. Isn’t this a crime that could be reported? I already reported the listing. Not sure if a post has already been made but just to be sure…

https://www.ebay.com/itm/T206-Honus-...sAAOSwHk9eouRy

Thanks,
Curt

Section103 04-30-2020 07:23 PM

$25,000 card. $3.95 in shipping.

Thats just funny.

toledo_mudhen 05-01-2020 02:47 AM

But his grandpa was a "very serious card collector" :eek:

hcv123 05-01-2020 08:43 AM

I reported it as well
 
I think it's great to out these idiots and make fun of them here - at the same time as doing our part and reporting them to Ebay.

Santo10Fan 05-01-2020 12:34 PM

It's clear to see he definitely put in work on this reprint. There are attempts to reproduce paper loss and tobacco stains, along with the cut corners as if the card was once part of an old-timey paper album book. The perfect centering is the most obvious red flag and indicates this person has zero experience with real T206s.

Still, in the end any buyer would have big hurdles to proving a criminal fraud. We all know which way the wind blows, but can you prove that the person really didn't know it was a reprint? The description was very carefully crafted to avoid just that.

KaiserCurt 05-01-2020 03:18 PM

I mean, this is a pretty big deal. There’s an actual chance a novice or else could buy this and be duped out of a small fortune!

phikappapsi 05-01-2020 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by KaiserCurt (Post 1976621)
I mean, this is a pretty big deal. There’s an actual chance a novice or else could buy this and be duped out of a small fortune!

if there's anyone out there dumb enough to spend $25K on a card without knowing enough about it recognize authenticity - and from a seller with ZERO feedback; well then - "a fool and his money" holds firm here.

Rascal1010 05-01-2020 03:52 PM

+1

Gorditadogg 05-01-2020 09:23 PM

Haha he says it's not worth the bother to get the card graded.

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drcy 05-01-2020 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phikappapsi (Post 1976623)
if there's anyone out there dumb enough to spend $25K on a card without knowing enough about it recognize authenticity - and from a seller with ZERO feedback; well then - "a fool and his money" holds firm here.

This is true. However, a crime against a dumb person is just as much a crime as a crime against a smart person.

KaiserCurt 05-02-2020 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drcy (Post 1976758)
This is true. However, a crime against a dumb person is just as much a crime as a crime against a smart person.

My thoughts exactly

Yastrzemski Sports 05-02-2020 03:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drcy (Post 1976758)
This is true. However, a crime against a dumb person is just as much a crime as a crime against a smart person.

I always had the thought that if you were getting something worth a small fortune for a fraction of the actual value then you are just as guilty. Im sure if it turned out to be real that the buyer isn’t going to sell it and split it with this guy.

cardsagain74 05-02-2020 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Yastrzemski Sports (Post 1976765)
I always had the thought that if you were getting something worth a small fortune for a fraction of the actual value then you are just as guilty. Im sure if it turned out to be real that the buyer isn’t going to sell it and split it with this guy.

So by that logic: someone who makes a garage sale "find" worth $15,000, tells the seller "these are worth a lot more than that", but still pays $500 for it when the seller insists "that's all I want for these"......that person is just as "guilty" as someone who purposely solicits and then deceives people out of large sums of money?

The same thing happens in card shops occasionally, as I imagine you know as well as anyone. If someone insists you buy their collection for a fraction of what it's worth, even after you've told them the value...if you do, you're just as guilty as a scammer committing a felony? As a customer would be who finds 10 cards still in your $1 box that have gone up to $50 each, and buys them?

I'm glad you don't make any laws

Case12 05-03-2020 12:22 PM

Too much gray area...if a 10 year old wants to sell me a Ken grieffy jr rookie for a buck at a garage sale, I might feel bad. If old grandma is getting rid of her dead husbands cards at a garage sale for a buck each, I might not feel so bad. Everybody wants to find the Ruth in a shoe box for a buck. Right? Heck I might even be a D**k and offer her .25 cents....

cubman1941 05-03-2020 03:18 PM

If memory serves me right, and it doesn't always, this card has been listed before or at least a similar situation as I remember the comments about his grandpa having it.


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