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hanes1111 11-16-2019 01:20 PM

Cleveland Tigers Seamheads
 
Found this at an estate auction. Dont know too much on old pictures . Is it real? If so whats the value ?


https://i.imgur.com/sKjvQUk.jpg?1
https://i.imgur.com/w2imS5X.jpg?1
https://i.imgur.com/lFA6acl.jpg?1

todeen 11-16-2019 04:06 PM

That's a cool photo! Nice find.

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hanes1111 11-17-2019 11:16 AM

any opinions on it being original? Looks like it was pulled from an album at some point

Jason19th 11-17-2019 11:40 AM

Image doesn’t seem clear enough to be a type one photo. But could still be very old. I would note that I cannot think I have ever seen this image before.

hanes1111 11-17-2019 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason19th (Post 1932033)
Image doesn’t seem clear enough to be a type one photo. But could still be very old. I would note that I cannot think I have ever seen this image before.

Jason, thanks for the input. I will keep the post updated with what I can find after contacting some negro league historical centers.

hanes1111 11-22-2019 05:11 PM

Nothing from the Negro League Center in Cleveland yet. I wrote them an email and attached the picture but is was flagged as undelivered address. I did find this on Wikipedia so there cant be many as stated above.

"The Cleveland Tigers were a Negro league baseball team in the Negro National League, based in Cleveland, Ohio, in 1928. In their only season, they finished in seventh place with a 20-59 record."

So only one season!:eek:

mannybb24 11-22-2019 07:34 PM

This photo was on eBay a couple of years ago, never sold as it had a ridiculous asking price.
My opinion, and don’t quote me on it but I believe it’s a reproduction as was the one on eBay, probably the exact same one.
About 8-9 years ago or more there was a seller on eBay selling repro Negro baseball photos that were in old frames to make it look like they were really old and original and they all had this same look to them as the Tigers photo you have.
I want to say the seller was out of Ohio but not 100% sure.

Just my thoughts.
Steve

todeen 11-22-2019 08:21 PM

If you are worried about its authenticity, or type 1, type 2, contact a local university's photography/art department. Or even a local archive. They should have someone on hand to tell you something about how it was manufactured. Probably do it for free as well.

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hanes1111 11-23-2019 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mannybb24 (Post 1933313)
This photo was on eBay a couple of years ago, never sold as it had a ridiculous asking price.
My opinion, and don’t quote me on it but I believe it’s a reproduction as was the one on eBay, probably the exact same one.
About 8-9 years ago or more there was a seller on eBay selling repro Negro baseball photos that were in old frames to make it look like they were really old and original and they all had this same look to them as the Tigers photo you have.
I want to say the seller was out of Ohio but not 100% sure.

Just my thoughts.
Steve

Thanks , I'm on the border of Ohio in Pennsylvania so it could be very possible. I will dig deeper to see if I can find it.

hanes1111 11-23-2019 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by todeen (Post 1933326)
If you are worried about its authenticity, or type 1, type 2, contact a local university's photography/art department. Or even a local archive. They should have someone on hand to tell you something about how it was manufactured. Probably do it for free as well.

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Good idea! I will check for one

Hankphenom 11-23-2019 10:09 AM

Dubious
 
My first thought was that it has that yellowed/faux-distressed look of other faked Negro League photos we've seen, but why would they do that with such an obscure team? Manny's spot of this item on eBay reinforces that initial impression that this is one of those. Another giveaway on that generation of fakes is the resolution, which is universally lousy on all of them and has an appearance never found on real photographs, or even legitimate copies of them.

hanes1111 11-23-2019 10:28 AM

If i remember right cardboard from the 1950's forward will glow really bright under blacklight. Im going to check this when i can find a good one to use

Hankphenom 11-23-2019 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hanes1111 (Post 1933434)
If i remember right cardboard from the 1950's forward will glow really bright under blacklight. Im going to check this when i can find a good one to use

I'm guessing it will light up like a Christmas tree!


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