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Peter_Spaeth 04-10-2019 05:05 PM

Precious Metal Gems -- this time red
 
I sort of get the Green, but there are 100 of each Red, yet this Duncan RC is already well over 8K. Seems high for a not so rare card?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1997-Metal-...oAAOSwb-JcqlsQ

swarmee 04-10-2019 05:34 PM

If Nats Turner doesn't have it for his set yet, it will go higher.

Update: https://www.psacard.com/psasetregist...timeset/244589
He already has a 9 of Duncan, so he's likely not in the bidding for this one.

Here is his green /10 set:
https://www.psacard.com/psasetregist...timeset/267505

CW 04-10-2019 07:34 PM

Not sure if you saw this, Peter, but a Red metal gems PSA 6.5 Jordan sold for $63,100 back in late March as well.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1997-Univer...p2047675.l2557

Peter_Spaeth 04-10-2019 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CW (Post 1869160)
Not sure if you saw this, Peter, but a Red metal gems PSA 6.5 Jordan sold for $63,100 back in late March as well.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1997-Univer...p2047675.l2557


(speechless)

Peter_Spaeth 04-10-2019 07:46 PM

The world has gone mad today
And good's bad today
And black's white today
And day's night today
When most cards today
That hoop guys buy today
Are just inserts made for show

pokerplyr80 04-10-2019 09:52 PM

It is interesting that a set no one really cared about when it was released gained such a following among modern collectors. The few 90s insert baseball cards that go for decent money today like 93 finest, 96 select mirror parallel cards, etc were quite popular when they were released.

The Nasty Nati 04-11-2019 09:58 AM

I remember in the 90s the Precious Metal basketball cards were very desirable and fairly valuable.

Basketball inserts are quite valuable these days as Asian and European collectors are putting a lot of money into that side of the hobby.

Baseball cards don't have the same worldwide desirability, at least cards produced after 1980.

glynparson 04-11-2019 01:57 PM

Exactly
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Nasty Nati (Post 1869299)
I remember in the 90s the Precious Metal basketball cards were very desirable and fairly valuable.

Basketball inserts are quite valuable these days as Asian and European collectors are putting a lot of money into that side of the hobby.

Baseball cards don't have the same worldwide desirability, at least cards produced after 1980.

This is 100% accurate.

Orioles1954 04-11-2019 02:04 PM

The NBA is much more popular outside of the states than within it.

AGuinness 04-11-2019 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Nasty Nati (Post 1869299)
I remember in the 90s the Precious Metal basketball cards were very desirable and fairly valuable.



Basketball inserts are quite valuable these days as Asian and European collectors are putting a lot of money into that side of the hobby.



Baseball cards don't have the same worldwide desirability, at least cards produced after 1980.


Is there anywhere to find numbers or data on foreign collectors or the money they spend (or some other proxy)? I’ve read this line of thought a few times, and while there is logic to it and it SOUNDS right, I’d be interested to see something to back it up empirically.


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Peter_Spaeth 04-11-2019 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orioles1954 (Post 1869381)
The NBA is much more popular outside of the states than within it.

I don't watch anything but the Finals now.

swarmee 04-11-2019 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AGuinness (Post 1869447)
Is there anywhere to find numbers or data on foreign collectors or the money they spend (or some other proxy)?

1) PSA just opened up an office in Japan. It's not all because of Pokemon.
2) Huge money in the modern basketball segment (as mentioned); go to blowoutforums.com and check their basketball forum and you can find plenty of high rollers from Asia.
3) Topps makes additional product of big releases (like MLB Bowman Draft, Transcendence) specifically for sale in Japan, some cases costing $25,000 each. Along with that, you got to meet Shohei Otani at a special event in Los Angeles.
https://www.comc.com/Cards,sh,=asia+exclusive,ot,i100

pokerplyr80 04-11-2019 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Nasty Nati (Post 1869299)
I remember in the 90s the Precious Metal basketball cards were very desirable and fairly valuable.

Basketball inserts are quite valuable these days as Asian and European collectors are putting a lot of money into that side of the hobby.

Baseball cards don't have the same worldwide desirability, at least cards produced after 1980.

From what I read I was under the impression they weren't that popular at release, and picked up a following a few years later. I did not collect basketball at the time so I don't know either way from any firsthand experience.

I doubt we will see a similar modern set ever match these pmgs in terms of popularity or prices realized.

Peter_Spaeth 04-11-2019 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80 (Post 1869487)
From what I read I was under the impression they weren't that popular at release, and picked up a following a few years later. I did not collect basketball at the time so I don't know either way from any firsthand experience.

I doubt we will see a similar modern set ever match these pmgs in terms of popularity or prices realized.

Cult-like following, it seems.

Nonsensename1 04-11-2019 11:09 PM

Precious Metal Gems -- this time red
 
Not that it makes a difference to the larger point, but as this may be the only time I ever contribute new info to a net54 thread..... though numbered to 100 there are 90 of each red. PMGs #1-10 are green and #11-100 are reds.




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Directly 04-12-2019 12:10 AM

briefs
 
Anyone found the 1/10 auto card out of the Jordan Briefs packages, what will they bring $500-1,000,000 each?

swarmee 04-12-2019 03:52 AM

No, those won't go nealy as high, as they're unlicensed cards and have Hanes written on them; I'd guess none tops $5,000. Jordan auto cards pictured in a Bulls jersey sell for a multiplier compared to ones in plainclothes or UNC duds.

darwinbulldog 04-12-2019 05:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swarmee (Post 1869536)
No, those won't go nealy as high, as they're unlicensed cards and have Hanes written on them; I'd guess none tops $5,000. Jordan auto cards pictured in a Bulls jersey sell for a multiplier compared to ones in plainclothes or UNC duds.

But in 100 years it's the new Boston Garters.


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