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Tao_Moko 10-29-2017 06:02 PM

John Tortes "Chief" Meyers
 
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I just ordered the biography of Meyers written by W. Young and though it has mixed reviews I'm excited to read it. Meyers joined the USMC during WWI but I haven't found any info on what he did or where he served. If anyone has information on his service I would love to know more.

I believe it's important to share the stories of those who stood tall against bigotry, ignorance and racism with my son. Meyers is a success story and thought maybe a good time to start a thread to bring his accomplishments back to the surface.

Please share cards, images, or tidbits of his personal life. I'll start it off with a Semper Fi for one of The Few!

Vintagecatcher 10-29-2017 06:18 PM

Enjoy the book!
 
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Eric,

I purchased the book when it first came out and enjoyed reading it very much.

Enjoy,

Patrick

kdixon 10-29-2017 07:30 PM

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Few Chief to Zach Wheat items. Mary was Zach Wheats daughter.

btcarfagno 10-29-2017 08:19 PM

Early Chief.

http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/y...pslwwquxkt.jpg

Tom C

Louieman 10-29-2017 10:10 PM

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Here's a couple of mine!

TheBig6 10-29-2017 10:53 PM

https://photos.imageevent.com/rucker...size/chief.jpg

KMayUSA6060 10-30-2017 09:35 AM

He has an interesting background story, particularly surrounding his college enrollment.

Stonepony 10-30-2017 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Louieman (Post 1715224)
Here's a couple of mine!

That T T is awsome

midmo 10-30-2017 01:45 PM

1916 D350-1 Standard Biscuit
 
I love the image on the D381. Here's a Standard Biscuit.

http://www.collectingbrooklyn.com/ne...cuitMeyers.jpg

T206Collector 10-30-2017 02:01 PM

I absolutely love my signed Meyers cards
 
Great thread! Glad I can contribute...

<img src="https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8120/29461322212_c076dd5d2f_c.jpg" width="800" height="644" alt="Meyers Batting Auto SGC 20"></a>

<img src="https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8135/29571015225_3284effb15_b.jpg" width="472" height="763" alt="Meyers Catching Auto SGC A"></a>

<img src="https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8897/29461322132_0b87912b45_b.jpg" width="484" height="763" alt="Meyers Portrait Auto SGC A"></a>

<img src="https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8244/28945493164_432380f3bd_b.jpg" width="847" height="763" alt="Doyle-Meyers T201 Auto SGC 40"></a>

GasHouseGang 10-30-2017 03:05 PM

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I picked up this Meyers T213 last year from a fellow board member. He was inducted to the local Riverside, CA Sports HOF in 2004. They posted this on their website:

John “Chief” Meyers Athlete, Pre 1960

2004 Inductees » John “Chief” Meyers
John “Chief” Meyers Riverside Sport Hall of Fame
Athlete, Pre 1960

There is some controversy over the birth date of the late John “Chief” Meyers, early major-league baseball star. According to a 1969 article in the Riverside Press Enterprise, he was born in 1880, but in other records, Meyers listed his birth date as 1882. The son of a German-American Civil War veteran from Indiana and a Cahuilla American Indian woman from the Santa Rosa Reservation, Meyers grew up as John "Chief" Meyers in Riverside. He played semi-pro and sandlot baseball in Hemet and Riverside and attended Dartmouth College for at least one year before signing on as catcher for the New York Giants and other major-league teams from 1909 to 1917.

The highlight of Meyers’ career was playing in four World Series with the Giants and the then Brooklyn Dodgers. He holds the record for most assists (12) in a six game Fall Classic. From 1911-13, he batted .332, .358, and .312 for the national League champions. He was a career .291 hitter.

John Meyers was one of the most readily recognized ballplayers of his time. His athleticism, affable personality, and ethnic identity made for good copy, and he developed friendships and acquaintances reading like a “who’s-who” of early baseball. While with the Giants, Meyers and Jim Thorpe roomed together and formed a lasting friendship. Meyers was also battery mate to future Hall of Famers Christy Mathewson and Rube Marquard in the Giants organization.

Meyers was known in the baseball world as “Chief” but his family and friends called him Jack. In 1933, he was appointed chief of the Mission Indian Agency of Southern California by the federal government, a post he held until retirement. He died at the age of 91 in July 1971.

In 1972, “Chief” was the first Mountain Cahuilla tribal member named to the American Indian Athletic Hall of Fame, located at Haskell Indian Nations University in Kansas.

h2oya311 10-30-2017 03:20 PM

Helmar Meyers
 
1911 Helmar Stamps:

https://photos.imageevent.com/derekg...1%20Meyers.jpg

Louieman 10-30-2017 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Stonepony (Post 1715406)
That T T is awsome

Thanks! I wish I had the type 2 as well, the image really pops on that version.

Tao_Moko 10-30-2017 05:58 PM

That D381 is now on my wantlist. Those letters to Mary Wheat and signed cards are very neat.

Chief had apparently shared that his greatest regret was not finishing his degree at Dartmouth due to issues rellated to a doctored HS diploma. Ultimately pushing him towards pro ball.

Let's keep the images and info coming. We should pick a player monthly to focus on like this.

RCMcKenzie 07-29-2019 04:19 PM

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I believe his birthday was July 29th, so I thought I would bump this to the top to post more of his cards. He had a lot of vintage cards. Here are a few...

Vintagecatcher 07-29-2019 06:29 PM

A few more Chiefs
 
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Patrick

Jobu 07-29-2019 06:46 PM

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Wow, there are some nice items here! I have debated doing a run of this pose as I have always thought it is terrific.

Copa7 07-29-2019 07:16 PM

chief meyers
 
Great thread. Why isn't he in the Hall of Fame ?

Aquarian Sports Cards 07-29-2019 07:23 PM

Didn't make the majors until he was 28 and was pretty washed up by 33. Had a great run though.

Vintagecatcher 07-30-2019 01:08 AM

Less than 10 year minimum
 
Unfortunately Chief Meyers didn't make the 10 year playing minimum requirement. He was the best offensive catcher of his day.

Bryan,

My display has the T5 Pinkerton Cabinet, Pinkerton PC, Max Stein PC, 1915 Cracker Jack, and BF2 Pennant!

Patrick

Copa7 07-30-2019 07:39 AM

chief meyers
 
Just added this one.


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BeanTown 07-30-2019 10:36 AM

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Chief hand written Cabinet about Chase.

gonzo 07-31-2019 07:41 AM

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T205 and 1914 Pritchard Stamp.

My favorite thing about these stamps is the "© P.T." in the bottom-left corner, for the Paul Thompson photo.

h2oya311 07-31-2019 01:19 PM

Michael, awesome Pritchard Stamp! Drool...

I still need a T330-2 Piedmont Stamp of Meyers...someone hook me up!

kateighty 07-31-2019 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards (Post 1903988)
Didn't make the majors until he was 28 and was pretty washed up by 33. Had a great run though.

Watch it Scott.

Aquarian Sports Cards 07-31-2019 05:51 PM

Hey I'm way past 33. Just talking about Chief, not in general!

CooperstownExpert 08-05-2019 01:07 AM

Chief Meyers on 5/19/1914 re: Matty's win #342 that tied for 4th on All Time list
 
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Here's a letter dated May 19, 1914 signed by Chief Meyers on the day he caught Christy Mathewson's 342nd career win.

The Native American from the Cahuilla culture writes, “In the game today, with the Cincinnati club with Mathewson pitching, I used the Model C.M. Catcher’s Mitt, made for me by your firm yesterday."

The rest of the letter is worth reading too. This letter and many other autographs can be found on CooperstownExpert.com, a site that has pages for every Hall of Famer and more than 250 other baseball men.

Hope you can enjoy it.


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