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Coralfarmer84 01-24-2017 05:28 PM

Ty cobb opinion
 
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Could you guys who know ty Cobb let me know if this is good or not. Thanks

Bpm0014 01-24-2017 06:36 PM

I know nothing about Cobb's autograph, but none should be that dark and bold and have the same amount of pen pressure to every letter.

Michael B 01-24-2017 07:23 PM

No comment on the authenticity as baseball signatures are not my specialty. However, there is a lot of bleeding of the ink into the leather and it looks like the ball was scuffed below the Cobb signature to remove one that was already there. The scuffing is too confined to a very distinct area.

gashouse34 01-24-2017 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bpm0014 (Post 1623906)
I know nothing about Cobb's autograph, but none should be that dark and bold and have the same amount of pen pressure to every letter.

Agreed...Looks like it was signed yesterday

Kco 01-24-2017 08:46 PM

That would be one of the boldest Cobb signatures on a ball if it was real, and that's the big problem. I'd be taking a hard pass on that one.

w7imel 01-24-2017 11:39 PM

Wow!!!!!!!!!!:eek::eek::eek: Id pass for sure!!!

RichardSimon 01-25-2017 06:39 AM

Looks like a trusty green Bic pen to me.
All the prior comments on this thread are so right!

khkco4bls 01-25-2017 07:34 AM

Almost looks like it was traced over an original autograph

Coralfarmer84 01-25-2017 08:36 AM

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After talking more with the owner he provided this documentation and after 5 min of reading it's starting to make sense

btcarfagno 01-25-2017 08:43 AM

Oh my God run away. Run away as fast as you can. Halper COA lol.

Tom C

Coralfarmer84 01-25-2017 08:54 AM

I appreciate the feedback everyone. This hobby is very interesting to me but I don't know enough about it to not look to you guys for help. This one did seem to vibrant right off the get-go but I figured why not look into it

Kco 01-25-2017 09:44 AM

And whoever is trying to sell this to you KNOWS damn well it's no good but is playing the "I have no idea card." I get people who are inexperienced in collectibles and go to sell a relatives items after they pass on or whatever, but Ty Cobb is an American figure, not just a baseball player. I'd be doing research all over the internet trying to find out value. Especially considering that it's attached to Halper, it's not even hard to find info

btcarfagno 01-25-2017 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Kco (Post 1624048)
And whoever is trying to sell this to you KNOWS damn well it's no good but is playing the "I have no idea card." I get people who are inexperienced in collectibles and go to sell a relatives items after they pass on or whatever, but Ty Cobb is an American figure, not just a baseball player. I'd be doing research all over the internet trying to find out value. Especially considering that it's attached to Halper, it's not even hard to find info

It's not attached to Halper.

The COA is fake as well.

Tom C

Kco 01-25-2017 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by btcarfagno (Post 1624115)
It's not attached to Halper.

The COA is fake as well.

Tom C

Thanks for the clarification!

Mr. Zipper 01-25-2017 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by btcarfagno (Post 1624115)
It's not attached to Halper.

The COA is fake as well.

Tom C

Yep, the bogus Halper COAs are the latest trick. Complete fabrication.

RichardSimon 01-25-2017 04:01 PM

A Halper COA is as good as a Coaches Corner COA.
Did CC use that Halper trick for a while?
Also as good as a COA from the Florida Mafia. (there are so many different ones in Fla that I cannot remember them all).

w7imel 01-25-2017 11:08 PM

If that ball was authentic in the condition it is in and given how dark the ink is it would be close to a 100,000 dollar ball...but thats the illusion these guys prey on they want you to think you are getting that deal of a lifetime for next to nothing. If it seems to good to be true it most always is in the autograph game.

mighty bombjack 01-26-2017 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RichardSimon (Post 1624152)
A Halper COA is as good as a Coaches Corner COA.
Did CC use that Halper trick for a while?

Still are. Check out this unbelievable ball, lot #1 from their current auction.

When I say unbelievable, I mean UNBELIEVABLE

"Comes with a full LOA from Barry Halper, and retail is five figures, easily!"

http://myccsa.com/Lot/294/1936-39-ho...all-by-15.aspx

RichardSimon 01-27-2017 05:45 AM

Damn,,, you outed that auction :(.
I had bid $12 earlier but with you outing that spectacular ball I am doomed.
:D:D:D

vthobby 01-27-2017 06:51 AM

Value.......
 
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There are 2 VERY valuable things in this photo.

#1 The Ultra Pro 8x10 sheet protector
#2 The ball cube

:eek:

Peace, Mike

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