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Harliduck 10-17-2016 01:34 PM

Pre-War Character Movie Ideas...
 
So one of my favorite things to do when I am bored in my office or on the road is looking through threads here on this site and look for names of players I have never heard of, or know little about. When I see a name, I then love to Wikipedia them or google some of that players life story and learn. I love it. Last night I read about Tommy Leach and Bill Sunday after seeing their names in the "Favorite Card Thread".

A lot of these old time players led AMAZING lives, and did AMAZING things. It leads me to this question...wouldn't it be great to have a high budget Hollywood film about some of these legendary players?

Who would be your choice, and why, to make a movie about?


My first thought would be someone like Nap Lajoie and center it around the Chalmers batting title race and Nap's life. But there are SO many others...

Sean 10-17-2016 01:43 PM

I would make one about Christy Mathewson, Fred Merkle, and the 1908 National League pennant race.

And throw in Mike Donlin and the life that he led.

Aquarian Sports Cards 10-17-2016 02:12 PM

Moe Berg and it's not even close.

Mdmtx 10-17-2016 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards (Post 1594434)
Moe Berg and it's not even close.

+1

Snapolit1 10-17-2016 03:38 PM

Spitball pitcher Urban Shocker.

Klrdds 10-17-2016 03:54 PM

Moe Berg definitely
Satchel Paige
Ted Williams concentrating equally on his baseball career and his military experiences in both wars.

IMAXMAX 10-17-2016 04:14 PM

Dude
 
Dude Esterbrook

Harliduck 10-17-2016 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards (Post 1594434)
Moe Berg and it's not even close.

??

Cool, time to hit google. I've honestly not heard of him...


Edit to add - I have heard of him, and did read all about him when I was putting together a Goudey set. Just forgot his name...and yes...that would be a heck of a movie.

clydepepper 10-17-2016 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards (Post 1594434)
Moe Berg and it's not even close.


Absolutely!

Now, let's have some fun...let's cast him!

Any Ideas?


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Harliduck 10-17-2016 04:43 PM

So wow...if you read the update to Moe Berg's Wikipedia page you get this -

In April 2016, it was announced that American actor Paul Rudd will portray Berg in an upcoming biographical drama film called The Catcher Was a Spy, based on the book of the same name. The film will be directed by Ben Lewin and is likely to be released in 2017.


Here is the link to the IMDB page-

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4602066/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

I like Paul Rudd, it will be interesting to see how they portray him as Rudd isn't the most serious actor. I'd more excited if say, Tom Hardy was playing him or someone like that. Either way, can't wait to see it.

Aquarian Sports Cards 10-17-2016 05:08 PM

Way back when I first heard his story I wanted to cast Bill Murray. Back then people thought I was nuts, now he gets a ton of respect as a serious actor. Plus he has a huge love affair with Baseball being part owner of a couple minor league teams. I guess you can figure out that I've been dying to see this movie made for rather a long time.

MacDice 10-17-2016 05:39 PM

Eddie Gaedel...focusing on not only his one AB but also his fall from fame and his struggles with alcohol.

Bocabirdman 10-17-2016 06:00 PM

Larry McLean's story would make for a rowdy tale.

margoaepi 10-17-2016 08:05 PM

Ray Chapman!

bbcard1 10-17-2016 08:21 PM

How about the flip side of Ray Chapman? Carl Mays was an interesting player who had his share of demons.

For your next interesting player that few people know about, your assignment is Dan Litwhiler. He is the subject of a very good episode of the Eephus Podcast, which I guarantee is right up your alley and will be a fun diversion for you.

And for Moe Berg I like Adam Sandler. Actually the Eephus Podcast has a good episode on Moe Berg also.

rhettyeakley 10-17-2016 08:31 PM

Eddie Grant.

Be a bit of a sad story obviously but he was the Pat Tillman of his era.

prewarsports 10-17-2016 10:10 PM

Louis Sockalexis' story has everything. He even died dramatically clutching newspaper accounts of his glory days. The twists and turns of his life and ultimate tragedy would be turned down by a Hollywood studio as too much fantasy if it wasn't all true. His homer off Amos Rusie who was jeering his minority status while real life indians gave war chants from the crowd is one of the greatest moments in baseball history. This and his descending from the chief of his tribe are not even in the top ten of the coolest things in his life. I have been a student of the game for three decades and his story is so fantastic that it is still hard for me to believe he was a real person sometimes!

EvilKing00 10-18-2016 05:20 AM

How about a true tragic story. Marty Bergen

Aquarian Sports Cards 10-18-2016 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by prewarsports (Post 1594560)
Louis Sockalexis' story has everything. He even died dramatically clutching newspaper accounts of his glory days. The twists and turns of his life and ultimate tragedy would be turned down by a Hollywood studio as too much fantasy if it wasn't all true. His homer off Amos Rusie who was jeering his minority status while real life indians gave war chants from the crowd is one of the greatest moments in baseball history. This and his descending from the chief of his tribe are not even in the top ten of the coolest things in his life. I have been a student of the game for three decades and his story is so fantastic that it is still hard for me to believe he was a real person sometimes!

His story is the reason why I hate when someone (ahem, lawsuit in Canada settled the other day) protests the name "Indians." Not only is it not a derogatory term like Redskins, but the team was renamed from the Spiders in Sockalexis' honor. So people are protesting something that was done in honor of one of the people for which they are busy being offended!

Down that vein though how about the first African Americans In the Majors, Moses and Welday Walker?

mechanicalman 10-18-2016 05:44 AM

A movie about Grover Cleveland Alexander would be equally parts fascinating and sad.

An ESPN short film on Rube Waddell would be pretty interesting, too.

Big Lou 309 10-18-2016 06:15 AM

The Winning Team.

Aquarian Sports Cards 10-18-2016 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by mechanicalman (Post 1594592)
A movie about Grover Cleveland Alexander would be equally parts fascinating and sad.

An ESPN short film on Rube Waddell would be pretty interesting, too.

One of Ronald Reagan's most famous roles was Alexander

mechanicalman 10-18-2016 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards (Post 1594600)
One of Ronald Reagan's most famous roles was Alexander

Must have missed that one. Will have to check it out.

bravos4evr 10-18-2016 09:19 AM

A tragedy about the life and death of Rube Waddell. Try to avoid all the fallacies told about him (that he chased fire trucks) and more about his real life. The booze, the crazy, his childhood and being forced out of the league regardless of his performance because of his inability to keep it together.

nebboy 10-18-2016 02:16 PM

The Black Prince of Baseball
Hal Chase - plenty of drama with one of the era's top players, being banned for life.

nebboy 10-18-2016 02:16 PM

The Black Prince of Baseball
Hal Chase - plenty of drama with one of the era's top players, being banned for life.

Bocabirdman 10-18-2016 06:35 PM

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A tragedy about the life and death of Rube Waddell. Try to avoid all the fallacies told about him (that he chased fire trucks) and more about his real life. The booze, the crazy, his childhood and being forced out of the league regardless of his performance because of his inability to keep it together.

He didn't die. He is just a little worse for wear. :D

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esd10 10-18-2016 06:49 PM

One of my ideas would be around addie joss from the view of his son and it would start right before he had gotten sick till after the death and first all star game. Another idea would be john mcgraw and focus on the 1904 season or another would be around the 1868-69 redlegs building of the team all the the way till the defeat by brooklyn.

Aquarian Sports Cards 10-18-2016 06:57 PM

Julius Solters is an interesting guy too. Pretty damn good hitter, was hit in the head by a pregame throw and knocked out cold and was never the same. Gradually went blind but still managed to support his wife and 5 kids, never took a hand out. just missed qualifying for the first pension but was never bitter. Very uplifting story.

KingFisk 10-18-2016 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mechanicalman (Post 1594601)
Must have missed that one. Will have to check it out.

As SABR put it, "The only ballplayer named for a sitting United States president and portrayed on film by a future one (Ronald Reagan in The Winning Team)."

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Shoeless Moe 10-18-2016 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Klrdds (Post 1594450)
Moe Berg definitely
Satchel Paige
Ted Williams concentrating equally on his baseball career and his military experiences in both wars.

Satch:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082277/

pherbener 10-19-2016 05:13 AM

I know he's not a well-known baseball player but Hobey Baker would make a great movie. ( You can't count Great Gatsby!) Hockey and college football Hall of Famer, as well as a fighter pilot in WW1 and his untimely death. (Suicide??)

bravos4evr 10-20-2016 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe (Post 1594836)

wasn't there one too where Satch was played by Billy Dee Williams? (or was it just a fictionalized account of the negro leagues where he played a "Satchel Paige" type character?)

Aquarian Sports Cards 10-20-2016 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bravos4evr (Post 1595295)
wasn't there one too where Satch was played by Billy Dee Williams? (or was it just a fictionalized account of the negro leagues where he played a "Satchel Paige" type character?)

Must be thinking of Bingo Long and His Traveling All-Stars. Not sure if it's a fictionalized account of Paige, or just fiction'

PSACJ 10-21-2016 11:48 AM

I would do one of Shoeless Joe Jackson!

Yoda 10-21-2016 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by margoaepi (Post 1594528)
Ray Chapman!

How about a story about Ray Chapman and Carl Mays and how their lives intersected on that terrible day.

mattsey9 10-22-2016 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Sean (Post 1594426)
I would make one about Christy Mathewson, Fred Merkle, and the 1908 National League pennant race.

And throw in Mike Donlin and the life that he led.

Sean,

As a Cubs fans, this would be relevant to my interests.


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