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Leon 08-23-2016 09:09 AM

T205 Gold Border Chase - Both Ears ...
 
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It's always interesting to see how folks collect and why they pick the cards they do, for their collection or otherwise. That being said-

Both backs are clean and the lower grade card only has the surface wear on front for a condition issue. Which would you choose for your collection (and why)? Also, for this practice let's assume both of these are the same version, as I guess the border extends version is a little more scarce. So assume both are the same variations.

frankbmd 08-23-2016 09:15 AM

I'm abstaining until I get confirmation the both ears are actually his.

Bliggity 08-23-2016 09:21 AM

The "border extends" one is actually mislabeled by PSA - they're both the "border ends" version. I used to have one that PSA mislabeled the other way. I'm not sure why they have so many problems with this card.

But...the 2.5!

Cozumeleno 08-23-2016 09:24 AM

The interesting thing is that the one labeled Border extends is actually incorrect. That's the Border ends version as well. The extends version has the diamond lines go all the way down like this one (not my listing).

Also would take the 2.5 since it's centered better and looks like it has slightly better corners.

Cozumeleno 08-23-2016 09:25 AM

Whoops
 
Looks like Dan beat me to the punch!

Bliggity 08-23-2016 09:32 AM

Great minds think alike :)

Here's the other-way-mislabeled one I used to own:

http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/...pswbsjzezb.jpg

Leon 08-23-2016 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Cozumeleno (Post 1575842)
Looks like Dan beat me to the punch!

I never collected the whole set so haven't followed all of the variations as much as I should have. While I am not old school (except in age and condition) I could see Old Schooler's saying "yeap, got Chase"....but yeah, once known it is quite easy to see one border extends and one doesn't :)

btcarfagno 08-23-2016 09:41 AM

If I were collecting a mid grade set I would not want either one. If I had to take one or the other as filler until a found a more suitable example I would take the 2.5 because of the centering and corners...better eye appeal I guess.

Tom C

Eggoman 08-23-2016 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by btcarfagno (Post 1575846)
If I were collecting a mid grade set I would not want either one. If I had to take one or the other as filler until a found a more suitable example I would take the 2.5 because of the centering and corners...better eye appeal I guess.

Tom C

EXACTLY the kind of set that I am working and I agree with Tom 100%...

Leon 08-23-2016 10:08 AM

Just curious why you wouldn't want the 2.5? Not nice enough for mid grade, I presume?

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Originally Posted by btcarfagno (Post 1575846)
If I were collecting a mid grade set I would not want either one. If I had to take one or the other as filler until a found a more suitable example I would take the 2.5 because of the centering and corners...better eye appeal I guess.

Tom C


btcarfagno 08-23-2016 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1575867)
Just curious why you wouldn't want the 2.5? Not nice enough for mid grade, I presume?

The scuffing on the front...especially its placement on Chase's face. Beautiful otherwise but I would take an example with worse corners over that one with the scuffing. I wouldn't want either one if I was collecting only mid grade examples for a set.

Tom C

Econteachert205 08-23-2016 10:14 AM

I like the colors on the 6 much better but wouldn't shell out the difference on that card.

Cozumeleno 08-23-2016 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Bliggity (Post 1575843)
Great minds think alike :)

Here's the other-way-mislabeled one I used to own:

http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/...pswbsjzezb.jpg

That's insane - I'm surprised that they apparently don't have a database of some sort with the images, variations, etc. Weird that several have been labeled incorrectly - it should be a pretty easy distinction for them.

bnorth 08-23-2016 10:25 AM

I like the 2.5 much better because I hate the big white spot in the upper right corner on the 6. On T205's I hate white spots showing in the gold borders.

Bliggity 08-23-2016 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Cozumeleno (Post 1575878)
That's insane - I'm surprised that they apparently don't have a database of some sort with the images, variations, etc. Weird that several have been labeled incorrectly - it should be a pretty easy distinction for them.

I assume what happens is that an inexperienced submitter will think Leon's example is the "extends" version because the right border does jut down a little past the shoulders, so they put that on the submission form. PSA then doesn't pay attention and slabs it in accordance with what was listed on the submission form.

Exhibitman 08-23-2016 11:21 AM

whats the back look like? With a bio back card I would need to see whether the back is trashed before answering.

Leon 08-23-2016 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Exhibitman (Post 1575916)
whats the back look like? With a bio back card I would need to see whether the back is trashed before answering.

as stated both backs are clean...

rats60 08-23-2016 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1575867)
Just curious why you wouldn't want the 2.5? Not nice enough for mid grade, I presume?

What's wrong with the 2.5? Does it have back damage?

T206Collector 08-23-2016 11:51 AM

When presented with this example in real life, I sell the 6, buy the 2.5 and take the leftover money for more cards. I just did this at the National with a PSA 6 T206 HOFer, which I sold for full value even though it was off-center and a corner was damaged. That's why I voted for the 6.

Leon 08-23-2016 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by rats60 (Post 1575945)
What's wrong with the 2.5? Does it have back damage?

Clarification on the back..was probably soaked before and is part of the downgrade so isn't really clean, but no letters are messed up (which is what I usually look for).......

Sean 08-23-2016 12:35 PM

I like the 2.5

The 6 is way off-center, and has too much chipping on the gold border.

pokerplyr80 08-23-2016 02:53 PM

I wouldn't buy the 6 because of the centering. The 2.5 looks nice but it's hard to tell the severity of the surface issue. It it takes away from the eye appeal I would pass on it as well. I generally avoid cards with surface issues near the players face. But if I had to pick one it would be the 2.5, especially if I were paying market value for the grade.

EvilKing00 08-23-2016 06:00 PM

2 nice cards! Pros and cons to each! Id prob take the 2.5, better centering and beautiful gold borders. Sure that scuff is annoying but i can live with it.


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