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BicycleSpokes 10-08-2014 04:28 AM

Net54 age distribution
 
Dear all,

I am curious to try and loosely quantify the age distribution among pre-war collectors, and I figure Net 54 members would be a good sample. If you don't mind, please take a minute and place a vote for your age group above!

I am especially interested if we collectively resemble e.g. a "youthful", "mature", or "post-mature" distribution, which will become more clear when the distribution curve begins to take shape.

Comments, opinions, and discussion on the likely effect of the pre-war collector age distribution on future demand (and hence prices!) are most welcome.

Thanks for voting.

Cheers,
David

ullmandds 10-08-2014 05:54 AM

i see frank and ted have not responded yet!!!:)

GoldenAge50s 10-08-2014 09:02 AM

Pete--
 
Me & 2 others have now!;)

Jobu 10-08-2014 12:59 PM

Excellent Poll
 
I have been thinking of posting this exact thing for a few weeks.

Leon 10-08-2014 01:02 PM

We have had these polls over the years and it's always fun to see a new one. Our average age used to be about 44 yrs old, last poll I think I figured it to be around 42 yrs old. Seems about right.... It's always good to see the "younger than 40yr old guys" collecting pre-war and vintage. Most know but I just turned 53 (not that it matters).

packs 10-08-2014 01:14 PM

29 here. Clinging to the "20s" range as long as I can.

obcbobd 10-08-2014 01:49 PM

Happy Birthday Leon. I've 2 months and 3 days to catch up with you.

I would guess the ages reported hear might be a little on the young side as older folks might not be into the Internet? I mean there must be some 8 year old collectors.

What do people who set up at shows say? Is mid 40s a good average age?

thanks

Bob

obcbobd 10-08-2014 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by obcbobd (Post 1331797)
Happy Birthday Leon. I've 2 months and 3 days to catch up with you.

I would guess the ages reported hear might be a little on the young side as older folks might not be into the Internet? I mean there must be some 8 year old collectors.

What do people who set up at shows say? Is mid 40s a good average age?

thanks

Bob

I meant to say 80 year old collectors. I'm sure all the 8 year olds are on the internet

wazoo 10-08-2014 02:53 PM

17 :d

Sean1125 10-08-2014 04:04 PM

22

ajjohnsonsoxfan 10-08-2014 04:15 PM

Interesting as it plays into the longevity of the hobby. I was trying to convince my brother to invest in a card the other day and his argument was that baseball card collecting will die out with this generation as the popularity of the sport fades over time and cedes fans to Football, Basketball, Soccer etc. I of course told him to jump in a lake, that young fans will continue to find the hobby and the finite nature of the cards creates a real supply and demand marketplace.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BicycleSpokes (Post 1331581)
Dear all,

I am curious to try and loosely quantify the age distribution among pre-war collectors, and I figure Net 54 members would be a good sample. If you don't mind, please take a minute and place a vote for your age group above!

I am especially interested if we collectively resemble e.g. a "youthful", "mature", or "post-mature" distribution, which will become more clear when the distribution curve begins to take shape.

Comments, opinions, and discussion on the likely effect of the pre-war collector age distribution on future demand (and hence prices!) are most welcome.

Thanks for voting.

Cheers,
David


Kawika 10-08-2014 05:40 PM

Fourteen years old trapped in a sixty-four year old body.

Nappy1525 10-08-2014 05:46 PM

Proud to be one of the few under 20

T206.org 10-08-2014 06:34 PM

33 going on 16 here

tonyo 10-08-2014 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by packs (Post 1331780)
29 here. Clinging to the "20s" range as long as I can.

Hang in there, I just moved into "50's" 2 weeks ago

Centauri 10-08-2014 07:37 PM

Well, I am shocked Leon is just 53. I assumed he was much older...<ducks>:D

Matvoo 10-08-2014 08:39 PM

15 years old !

batsballsbases 10-08-2014 08:44 PM

56 coming up!;)

Jeffrompa 10-08-2014 09:00 PM

Same here 55 and counting .

Gobucsmagic74 10-08-2014 09:06 PM

39 for another month.

BicycleSpokes 10-09-2014 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajjohnsonsoxfan (Post 1331870)
Interesting as it plays into the longevity of the hobby.

I totally agree, and gaining some insight on this issue is actually my main motivation behind the poll.

After a 24 hour sampling period has passed, I will report some statistics about the distribution...

JollyElm 10-09-2014 03:04 AM

Keep in mind that it might be tough for folks in the last 3 or 4 categories to understand how to use their computers, so their numbers may end up being lower than reality. :D

EvilKing00 10-09-2014 04:12 AM

turned 40 6 months ago

BicycleSpokes 10-09-2014 04:42 AM

Poll results (24 hr sample period)
 
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Thank you all so much for the great voter turnout!

After an "official" 24 hour sampling period, here are some results for the Net54 age distribution poll:

Total population sampled: 289
mean age: 45.4 years
median age: 44.5 years
standard deviation: 11.6 years
skewness: 0.132

For the mean and other statistics, I just assumed a mean value for each age group i.e. 14.5, 24.5, 34.5, etc.. While not perfect, this is easier than compiling the nearly 300 values by hand! (and also gets to within a few years of the mean values Leon mentioned previously in the thread, as a gut check.)

More than the mean, I am personally actually most interested in the skewness, which is a measure of how asymmetric the distribution is about the mean. The slightly positive skewness means that the distribution is actually "leftward leaning" compared to a perfectly symmetric normal distribution i.e. leaning towards the younger population (e.g. the 30s outweigh the 50s; also the "most likely" median age is less than the mean). I was actually expecting the opposite, so this is a pleasant surprise. This in particular would seem to point to a rather healthy, possibly growing, active Net54 population. In fact, given that many potential collectors won't have much disposable income until around say 30 (at least I know I didn't), this may create an artificial lower age barrier to entering the hobby, hence the leftward lean might be even more pronounced than indicated by the raw statistics (I am only speculating here). On the other hand, as many of you noted, the online sampling might also skew young compared to the pre-war collecting population as a whole. In any event, a graph of the 24-hour sampling results is attached as a JPEG file, in case anybody is interested.

If it doesn't annoy you guys too much, I would like to repeat this "census survey" at approximately annual periods, and continually add the new yearly results onto the chart below. I don't expect much difference year to year necessarily, but over say 5 or 10 years, I am curious if any noticeable and consistent drifts can be observed. (Sorry, I am an engineer / scientist, and just like doing these sorts of things! Also, anybody who has actual expertise in statistics, polling, etc. is very welcome to weight in!)

Thank you all again for participating (the poll remains open).

Cheers,
David

EvilKing00 10-09-2014 06:18 AM

Nice work

soccersaver97 10-09-2014 03:37 PM

17. Part of the 1%!

DHogan 10-09-2014 03:39 PM

I'm 57 and feel old. :(

jiw98 10-09-2014 05:09 PM

Feeling good at 56.

ethicsprof 10-10-2014 02:11 PM

age
 
40 folks in their 60s!!!
I feel better already. :)

all the best,
barry

barrysloate 10-10-2014 02:39 PM

62 and counting.:)

Leon 10-10-2014 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Centauri (Post 1331974)
Well, I am shocked Leon is just 53. I assumed he was much older...<ducks>:D

Thanks. Physically I feel much older, mentally, like a kid...... but with the responsibilities of the older guy. The poll confirms the norm......nice job too.

Rhotchkiss 12-19-2018 05:41 AM

Reviving this thread from 2014. Thanks for the link Pete

50sBaseball 12-19-2018 07:47 AM

I just qualify as a pre-war baseball card collector as I focus primarily as a Ted Williams-era (1939-1960) collector. At 72+ years, I have been called (and categorized) many things, but never as "post-mature!" What does that mean? By the way, I called my 17 year-old granddaughter and she helped me to turn on my computer. Thank God for kids and grandkids. Still enjoy collecting, but am at that crossroads mentioned in other threads about is it time to start selling off one's collection. Not quite ready and still enjoy the thrill of the chase.

barrysloate 12-19-2018 08:50 AM

I was so much older then
I'm younger than that now.

Eggoman 12-19-2018 09:43 AM

I'd be curious to see a parallel poll indicating how long we have been collecting, too, but setting up such a poll is beyond my computer literacy, I'm afraid!

I'm 56 years old and won my first baseball card when I was flipping against a brick wall in Kindergarten when I was 6. It was a 1968 Topps Rookie Stars with Lou Piniella...

Been collecting ever since...sometimes more active than others, but NEVER quit the Hobby!

obcbobd 12-19-2018 11:01 AM

Would it not be possible to extract DOB from the user database? That might give a good answer

brianp-beme 12-19-2018 12:11 PM

Since this thread was first concocted, I have slid further down the vintage collecting bell curve toward the inevitable oblivion.

Brian

Jay Wolt 12-19-2018 12:17 PM

If this thread was revived from 4 years ago, then aren't the #'s skewed?
As many of us have slid into the next bracket

Stampsfan 12-19-2018 12:43 PM

Agreed with above. I'm slipping into another bracket on Ground Hog's Day.

Bram99 12-19-2018 08:53 PM

The mean
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BicycleSpokes (Post 1332051)
Thank you all so much for the great voter turnout!

After an "official" 24 hour sampling period, here are some results for the Net54 age distribution poll:

Total population sampled: 289
mean age: 45.4 years
median age: 44.5 years
standard deviation: 11.6 years
skewness: 0.132

For the mean and other statistics, I just assumed a mean value for each age group i.e. 14.5, 24.5, 34.5, etc.. While not perfect, this is easier than compiling the nearly 300 values by hand! (and also gets to within a few years of the mean values Leon mentioned previously in the thread, as a gut check.)

More than the mean, I am personally actually most interested in the skewness, which is a measure of how asymmetric the distribution is about the mean. The slightly positive skewness means that the distribution is actually "leftward leaning" compared to a perfectly symmetric normal distribution i.e. leaning towards the younger population (e.g. the 30s outweigh the 50s; also the "most likely" median age is less than the mean). I was actually expecting the opposite, so this is a pleasant surprise. This in particular would seem to point to a rather healthy, possibly growing, active Net54 population. In fact, given that many potential collectors won't have much disposable income until around say 30 (at least I know I didn't), this may create an artificial lower age barrier to entering the hobby, hence the leftward lean might be even more pronounced than indicated by the raw statistics (I am only speculating here). On the other hand, as many of you noted, the online sampling might also skew young compared to the pre-war collecting population as a whole. In any event, a graph of the 24-hour sampling results is attached as a JPEG file, in case anybody is interested.

If it doesn't annoy you guys too much, I would like to repeat this "census survey" at approximately annual periods, and continually add the new yearly results onto the chart below. I don't expect much difference year to year necessarily, but over say 5 or 10 years, I am curious if any noticeable and consistent drifts can be observed. (Sorry, I am an engineer / scientist, and just like doing these sorts of things! Also, anybody who has actual expertise in statistics, polling, etc. is very welcome to weight in!)

Thank you all again for participating (the poll remains open).

Cheers,
David

There are actually more nice than mean, but there are certainly a few mean.

OLDBILL 12-19-2018 10:17 PM

"Given the choice between being right or kind, - choose kind."

GregZakwin 12-19-2018 10:40 PM

New-ish to the site
 
29

GasHouseGang 12-19-2018 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregZakwin (Post 1838023)
29

Huh, look at that. I'm equal to two Gregs!

midmo 12-20-2018 12:07 AM

I'm 47 so at least I haven't changed brackets since this poll came out. :) I've been collecting on and off since late 1979.

stlcardsfan 12-20-2018 07:57 AM

Just turned 52.

Forever Young 12-20-2018 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay Wolt (Post 1837866)
If this thread was revived from 4 years ago, then aren't the #'s skewed?
As many of us have slid into the next bracket

Yep:)

alywa 12-20-2018 08:19 AM

45. Collected during the junk era, but mostly concentrated on post-war HOF players. Renewed collecting 2 years ago, mostly pre-war HOF now.

darin2200 12-20-2018 09:28 AM

When are we doing the weight poll, maybe using BMI to account for height?

I'm guessing sorting sports cards doesn't keep us very lean.

hehehehe. J\K

gregr2 12-20-2018 09:33 AM

I'm in the same bracket I was 4 years ago and have 3 years till I hit the next one. :eek:

hcv123 12-20-2018 11:17 AM

Well, not quite 8.....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by obcbobd (Post 1331797)
I mean there must be some 8 year old collectors.


Bob

My son is 11 and VERY into the prewar cards!


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