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MMarvelli 08-19-2013 01:40 PM

Cy Morgan is really Benny Bowcock
 
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As stated in Old Cardboard's eNews email received today, SABR photo researches have determined that the 1910 E104-1 Nadja, 1911 T208 Cullivan's, and 1911 D339 William's Bakery image of Cy Morgan is not Cy Morgan. Actually the image is Benny Bowcock who only played 14 MLB games in 1903, seven years earlier than the issue of the Morgan card(s). More to the story can be found elsewhere but I thought it would be nice to give Benny his props and post the three incorrectly labeled Morgan's.

Here is my Nadja...
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Leon 08-19-2013 01:42 PM

and another scarce one...

http://luckeycards.com/pt208.jpg

brianp-beme 08-19-2013 01:52 PM

Captain Morgan for me
 
Just so he isn't mercilessly teased, I think Benny should stick with the Cy Morgan moniker.

Brian

frankbmd 08-20-2013 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by brianp-beme (Post 1173126)
Just so he isn't mercilessly teased, I think Benny should stick with the Cy Morgan moniker.

Brian

Benny's nickname was "The Arrow" :D:D

packs 08-20-2013 08:08 AM

Benny we hardly knew you

tedzan 08-20-2013 08:17 AM

Bris Lord / Sherry Magee
 
My Bristol Lord card is blank-backed, so I don't know if it's a 1910 NADJA or a Cullivan's Fireside. In any event, I tell myself that I have seen this face before.

Yes....of course, it's the face on the 1909 T206 Sherry Magee card.....albeit a reverse image.


http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/t...bmageelord.jpg


Incidently......both Magee and Lord have the following in common......born a year apart in countryside towns in Pennsylvania.

Started their major league careers in BB in 1905 in Philadelphia.


TED Z

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LOOKING for these 6 - T206 guys to complete my AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 sub-set (75 cards)

AMES (hands over head)....CAMNITZ (hands over head)....DOYLE (portrait)....McGRAW (portrait-cap)
McQUILLAN (bat)....TINKER (bat off shoulder)

Leon 08-20-2013 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by tedzan (Post 1173506)
My Bristol Lord card is blank-backed, so I don't know if it's a 1910 NADJA or a Cullivan's Fireside.

T208 Cullivans will have their ad on back so yours is a Blanke - Wenneker Nadja (E104)

murcerfan 08-20-2013 08:38 AM

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...and isn't this actually Cy Seymour?

milkit1 08-20-2013 08:50 AM

Good lord what idiot on the athletics organizations was providing the wrong photos?!?!

tnfoto 08-20-2013 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by milkit1 (Post 1173522)
Good lord what idiot on the athletics organizations was providing the wrong photos?!?!

The "Lord" and "Baker" images were both included in the 1907 Sporting Life NL team composite. Both were correctly identified in the composite as Magee (Philadelphia) and Seymour (New York, but pictured with Cincinnati ca. 1902-03), so I'm still not sure where the mix-up happened. I'm fairly confident that The Sporting Life was the source, however, because the images for the Bender, Davis, Dygert, Mack, "Morgan," Murphy, Oldring and Plank cards were included in the 1907 AL composite.
(Please note, I do not own the cards pictured)

MMarvelli 08-20-2013 11:48 AM

Composite Confusion
 
T. Scott ... You and Mark did a great research job uncovering the Bowcock-Morgan switch and all the other related mis-labeled players prior to Bowcock ending up as Morgan. Your SABR article was very well written and illustrated, it was a mini mystery novel.

bmarlowe1 08-22-2013 09:46 PM

MMarvelli - thanks much for the compliment - glad you liked the article.


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