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BobC 04-28-2013 11:00 AM

Careful, there's a bad ad backed S74 Cobb silk on Ebay!
 
Sorry, don't know how to attach a link to the Ebay listing but, there's a seller named bonds732001 who has a Ty Cobb - Old Mill backed silk up for sale on Ebay at a BIN of $250 at Listing #111059462377. The silk itself looks legit but, the back doesn't fit quite right and it is definitely an attempt at re-attachment. Can definitely tell because the ad back is actually off one of the actress silks and not even from another ballplayer silk.

I already contacted the seller and informed him of the error. He said he bought it that way and will wait to see if he takes it down or at least corrects the listing. Just a heads-up for everyone.

Bob

Leon 04-28-2013 11:11 AM

yikes....linky..


http://www.ebay.com/itm/111059462377...377%26_rdc%3D1



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BobC 04-28-2013 11:25 AM

Bad S74 Cobb
 
Thanks Leon!

Bored5000 04-28-2013 12:14 PM

The seller has now made mention in his description that he was informed by another collector that it may be an incorrect back.

T205 GB 04-28-2013 07:28 PM

Looks like and actress gave her spot to save a Cobb thank goodness:)

Probably not a deliberate fraud/mislead since they failed to scratch out the "actress" on the back, and it didn't come from their grandpas attic or basement.:D:D

CW 04-28-2013 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bored5000 (Post 1124141)
The seller has now made mention in his description that he was informed by another collector that it may be an incorrect back.

Hmmmm, seller must've changed description. I no longer see a mention. :confused:

Bored5000 04-28-2013 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CW (Post 1124313)
Hmmmm, seller must've changed description. I no longer see a mention. :confused:

I looked again after seeing your post, and you're right. The seller apparently reconsidered full disclosure; it was there earlier.

Seattle799 04-28-2013 11:40 PM

He lowered the BIN price to $190... most likely to account for the lack of honesty.

Leon 04-29-2013 06:47 AM

Here my friends we have witnessed a true trifecta-

Ignorance, honesty, dishonesty .......all in one auction.

frankbmd 04-29-2013 07:05 AM

Fyi
 
The second wife of Mike Wallace was an actress named Cobb. It was not a long marriage but lasted longer than 60 Minutes.;)

BobC 04-29-2013 10:42 AM

S74 Bad-Backed Cobb Silk
 
Don't beat him up too badly guys. The Seller actually thanked me for pointing out the problem to him and updated the description as he told me he would. He just didn't know what he had. He also told me the back WAS NOT glued on to the silk, so in that respect he may have been a bit misleading. It is still an original Cobb silk and even at the original BIN he had listed it at, it wasn't that overinflated in asking price.

For the earlier poster who commented about him not crossing out the actress reference on the back of the silk, all the silks, whether ballplayers or actresses, mention both names on the back.

Bob

Leon 04-29-2013 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobC (Post 1124444)
Don't beat him up too badly guys. The Seller actually thanked me for pointing out the problem to him and updated the description as he told me he would. He just didn't know what he had. He also told me the back WAS NOT glued on to the silk, so in that respect he may have been a bit misleading. It is still an original Cobb silk and even at the original BIN he had listed it at, it wasn't that overinflated in asking price.

For the earlier poster who commented about him not crossing out the actress reference on the back of the silk, all the silks, whether ballplayers or actresses, mention both names on the back.

Bob

If he is honest why didn't he leave the description amendment? That is definitely the wrong back on that silk and it should be described that way, unless I am missing something? As for the price, that is irrelevant to the issue of there being an actress back on a baseball front, no?

BobC 04-29-2013 04:22 PM

Bad Ad-Backed Cobb Silk
 
Leon,

From the gist of his correspondence, I got the impression he didn't know any better and that was how he acquired it. The fact that he quickly went ahead and changed the description after I contacted him helped to confirm that feeling.

Of course, he could have just played me and knew exactly what he was doing and decided to change the description once he knew someone else was on to him. Probably just being naive and trying to believe that everyone is inherently good and honest. :)

Bob

Leon 05-01-2013 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobC (Post 1124632)
Leon,

From the gist of his correspondence, I got the impression he didn't know any better and that was how he acquired it. The fact that he quickly went ahead and changed the description after I contacted him helped to confirm that feeling.

Of course, he could have just played me and knew exactly what he was doing and decided to change the description once he knew someone else was on to him. Probably just being naive and trying to believe that everyone is inherently good and honest. :)

Bob

Hi Bob
Unless I missed something you are commenting as if this seller is doing the right thing? He isn't. This is a wrong back, almost positively put on a decent Cobb silk. The fact the price isn't a lot more than it's worth doesn't matter that much to me. It should be described correctly.

BobC 05-02-2013 03:51 PM

Hey Leon,

I agree, he misrepresented the item. I was just making an observation that I felt it was more from his ignorance than any any intentional act to try and make more money off the card and incorrect back. In all honesty, I have not gone back to read his new description. It sounds like he still isn't correctly describing what he is selling.....plus, that is one fugly looking silk with that back included. He would be best off to just get rid of the back and sell the Cobb silk solo. Actually not too bad of a silk, sans the incorrect back.

Bob

Leon 05-02-2013 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobC (Post 1125911)
Hey Leon,

I agree, he misrepresented the item. I was just making an observation that I felt it was more from his ignorance than any any intentional act to try and make more money off the card and incorrect back. In all honesty, I have not gone back to read his new description. It sounds like he still isn't correctly describing what he is selling.....plus, that is one fugly looking silk with that back included. He would be best off to just get rid of the back and sell the Cobb silk solo. Actually not too bad of a silk, sans the incorrect back.

Bob

His new description is that he took out the correction that made it a legit description. He changed it to the original which was misrepresenting it. So he is back to being fraudulent. And I agree, not a bad silk otherwise :).


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