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Edwolf1963 11-11-2012 07:49 PM

This is obvious shilling!!!
 
This same Koufax 125 rookie (PSA7) went off on 10/25 for $1,100 to P***l(5). 100% bidding with this seller. No feedback either way, nothing to suggest the sale was completed - then low and behold, the card is up again and look who's the high bidder - AGAIN!!! P***l(5) with the same 100% bidding. Even the under bidder with (70) feedback had 100% bidding with same seller.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1955-Topps-S...-/251179611224

Edwolf1963 11-11-2012 08:03 PM

Here's the link to the 10/25 auction
 
Same card, same high bidder...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=251170099450

cobblove 11-11-2012 08:23 PM

what about the BVG 1948 Yogi Berra BVG 7 that sold last week for 550 via auction and now is back up the day after it sold. Guy also lives in a classy area.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1948-BOWMAN-...item3a7b862fd9


http://www.ebay.com/itm/1948-BOWMAN-...item3a7b303c4c

Also this is the only listing the guy has where he blocks the ids of the bidders. Check his others out he feels they should be public but not this card.

tbob 11-12-2012 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by cobblove (Post 1051992)
what about the BVG 1948 Yogi Berra BVG 7 that sold last week for 550 via auction and now is back up the day after it sold. Guy also lives in a classy area.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1948-BOWMAN-...item3a7b862fd9


http://www.ebay.com/itm/1948-BOWMAN-...item3a7b303c4c

Also this is the only listing the guy has where he blocks the ids of the bidders. Check his others out he feels they should be public but not this card.

I won't bid in any auction where the bidders' names are hidden.

Edwolf1963 11-12-2012 03:59 PM

Follow Up
 
I reported this and 2-3 other items on same seller where the same (5) feedback, 100% bidder activity was bidding up the price. He had about 10-15 items for sale as I recall, now today they are all removed. I was PO'd as I'd been interested, had followed that card for days and had a snipe in until I saw the history and previous listing. Pulled it all and reported it - I wasn't sure if/what eBay did when they were alerted to shilling..?

I know shilling happens .. and a low feedback, 100% activity bidder doesn't necessarily mean its shilling - - BUT, in this case, the low feedback 100%'er was shown to have won the Koufax PSA7 123 on 10/25 @ $1,100 - then the card was quietly relisted with the same bidder bidding up the price again! Bidding that up as well as other items the seller had (coins) :mad:

To me, shilling is in the same bucket as the reprints listing as authentic crowd. It's fraud.

egbeachley 11-12-2012 08:16 PM

Check out how vintagecollectors!!! was upbid by the shill 12 times at the end. He doesn't even know it - gave good feedback.

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=321001680897

Leon 11-13-2012 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by egbeachley (Post 1052246)
Check out how vintagecollectors!!! was upbid by the shill 12 times at the end. He doesn't even know it - gave good feedback.

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=321001680897


nice.....The under bidder has 52 items bid on, 100% with this seller....probably no worries there :eek:.




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