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Runscott 09-25-2011 03:34 PM

Dating a pre-WWI bat, ball and catcher's mitt
 
I attempted to date these items about 7 years ago through this forum, and was only able to find a resource for the bat. I cannot find the dating info, but the person used the label to narrow it down to I believe, 1910-14. The catcher's mitt is a Horace Partridge and looks a little small, but maybe they were smaller then (presumably around 1910-20). I also have a beat-up ball that came with the other items - it has the pre-20's narrow red/blue stitching, but I'm wandering if I can assign a more narrow date range to it as well. Thanks.

http://www.belltownvintage.com/BusseyStuff/batlabel.jpg

http://www.belltownvintage.com/Busse...ssey_Glove.jpg

BrandonG 09-26-2011 12:09 AM

Well where's the picture of the ball? I can give you a pretty good date range if I can see it.

vintagebrett 09-26-2011 04:05 AM

For the mitt, Horace Partridge used that tagging in the early 1910's.

Runscott 09-26-2011 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrandonG (Post 927541)
Well where's the picture of the ball? I can give you a pretty good date range if I can see it.

I'll take a pic of the ball today.

Brett - thanks for the catcher's mitt tagging info.

Runscott 09-29-2011 12:53 PM

Sorry this took so long, and thanks for your help.

The mitt has now been dated to early 1910's, the bat (as I remember) to 1910-14, and the ball came with them:

http://www.belltownvintage.com/BusseyStuff/WB_Ball.png

BrandonG 09-29-2011 01:56 PM

Looking at the type of thread used to stitch it (braided), and the size of the stitch, yes I think it's safe to say it dates between 1910-1920. Also looks like red/green? stitching? Possibly a Harwood ball, they sold a lot of recreational type of baseballs during that time period.

Runscott 09-29-2011 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrandonG (Post 928326)
Looking at the type of thread used to stitch it (braided), and the size of the stitch, yes I think it's safe to say it dates between 1910-1920. Also looks like red/green? stitching? Possibly a Harwood ball, they sold a lot of recreational type of baseballs during that time period.

Thanks Brandon. It's actually blue stitching. The original owner played in games against the 1911 Kansas City Giants and Leland's Chicago Giants, and I'm guessing he saved this ball because it was from an important moment in a game he played in. He died in '83, so he held onto it for a long time.

mr2686 09-30-2011 07:31 AM

Runscott, do you know the name of the original owner?

Runscott 09-30-2011 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mr2686 (Post 928471)
Runscott, do you know the name of the original owner?

Yes, there was supporting documentation - local semi-pro player, no one famous. I have written an article about the equipment - just finalizing some photographs prior to publication.

Runscott 10-01-2011 02:05 PM

Can anyone validate the bat date, by the label?

Never mind, found it: 1911-15


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