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mrvster 08-09-2011 09:58 PM

Ty Cobb tob. tin on Auction Kings
 
Hello All!!

Did anyone see the episode tonite on discovery channel "auction kings"??

They had a Ty Cobb Tob tin!!!....they said only ten existed......1909-1911 era....then they showed a Ty Cobb t206 as an example of the card that would be found....r these the tins the ty cobb backs came in???

the tin went $4200 in whopped condition...

was kewl.....:D

canjond 08-09-2011 10:08 PM

That tin actually sold back in March. It was beat up pretty badly and the price wasn't out of line with value. Aside from the one in Legendary that sold for a whopping $35k (for no apparent reason), the other beautiful ones I have seen have all sold in the 10k range.

In all likelihood, the Ty Cobb backed cards DID NOT come in these tins. I saw the expert they brought in (Tony Cocchi) and he generally got the points right, but made some misstatements. For the record, there are more than 10 of these tins known... I've counted 14, and I'm sure there are others.

Jason 08-09-2011 10:09 PM

I saw the episode too and to my limited knowledge{see limited}! those cards did come in those tins.Pretty cool to see while channel flipping!

mrvster 08-09-2011 10:10 PM

Cobb Tin
 
I was waiting Jon C.:D

Great job......was kewl 2 c!!

canjond 08-09-2011 10:11 PM

To clarify my post above, it is likely that the tins related to/go hand-in-hand with the Ty Cobb backed cards. However, the cards were likely given out at point-of-sale and not directly packaged with the product.

GasHouseGang 12-10-2021 03:00 PM

Ty Cobb Tin
 
Sorry for dredging up such an old thread, but I just saw the episode where Auction Kings sold a Ty Cobb tin for $4300. They brought in an expert (Tony Cocchi) that said a T206 Cobb card, and only a Ty Cobb would be inside the tin when originally sold. The appraiser ended up buying it. I found this hard to believe and found this thread about the episode. Then I looked up Tony Cocchi and found this article:

In Sports Memorabilia, Let the Buyer Beware
THE SPORTS ITEAM BLOG |
DEC 04, 2012 AT 1:05 AM

The sports memorabilia business has long been plagued by scandal and fraud, and law-enforcement officials have periodically investigated allegations of counterfeit cards, forged autographs and phony icons (The FBI's Operation Bullpen has resulted in dozens of convictions since 1997). Many collectors and dealers dismiss the industry's problems, saying they come from the fly-by-night operators who peddle bogus items on the Internet and then evaporate into the anonymity of cyberspace. If you do your homework and stick to reputable dealers and auction houses, they say, you shouldn't have any problems. But in recent months, three separate cases have raised questions about the hobby's most prominent players – and the integrity of the sports memorabilia business. In Georgia, collector Goodman Espy has accused Tony Cocchi, a memorabilia dealer who has worked with the hobby's most prominent companies (Mastro Auctions, Lelands, Geppi's Memorabilia Road Show, Memorabilia Evaluation and Research Services), of selling him a fake Ty Cobb jersey for $85,000. Cocchi is under investigation by Marietta, Ga., police for felony theft by deception. If Espy – a respected doctor and community leader – is correct, then it raises questions about whether Cocchi had provided bogus memorabilia to other collectors, dealers or auction houses. In Indiana, dealer Bill Daniels' lawsuit against Mastro Auctions and PSA/DNA, the hobby's top autograph authentication service, also raises questions. Daniels spent $20,000 for a lot of autographed photographs at a December 2004 Mastro sale; when he received the photos, most were damaged, with bent corners, creases and smeared signatures. During discovery, Daniels and his attorney S. Andrew Burns say they learned that PSA/DNA authenticator Zach Rullo, whose signature was on the letter of authenticity that accompanied the photos, was one of the consigners. "That's a conflict of interest, absolutely," Burns says. The quality of that authentication is also an issue; Burns says records indicate a three-man team that included Rullo spent 16 hours over two days poring through the 56,000 items offered in the 2004 auction. That's just a few seconds per item, the attorney says. "That's not enough time to move the photos from one stack to another, never mind compare the signatures to exemplars or review the quality of the photos," he says. Daniels says when he sent some of the photos to a rival of PSA/DNA, the company informed him the autographs were forgeries. As the Daily News reported on Sunday, Ohio authorities investigating coin dealer Tom Noe, the Republican Party fund-raiser accused of stealing millions from the rare coin funds he managed for the state's Bureau of Worker Compensation, say they have discovered what they call questionable transactions between Noe and Mastro Auctions. Would-be whistle-blowers in sports memorabilia must feel like they are stuck between a rock and a hard place. It must be infuriating to think you've been sold a forged autograph or bogus collectible. But if one piece is bogus or improperly authenticated, doesn't that suggest other pieces may also be no good? Will people who thought their card or game-used memorabilia collections were worth thousands of dollars wake up one morning and learn they have nothing but old cardboard and ancient baseball gear?

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