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PZdiaz110 05-09-2018 09:01 PM

1924 Diaz Cigarettes Ogden request
 
I was wondering if anyone out there has a 1924 Diaz Cigarettes card for Warren H. Ogden and, if so, could you please send me a decent scan? I am working on an art project and can't seem to find an image of that card anywhere!

Shot in the dark but figured it couldn't hurt to ask. :)

Thanks,

Dave

ValKehl 05-10-2018 02:08 PM

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Dave, below are pics of my 1924 Diaz card of Warren H. "Curly" Ogden. If you would like me to email you scans of this card, send me a PM with your email address.

"Curly" Ogden, whose brother John/"Jack" also pitched in the Majors, had a 5-year MLB career, with an overall W-L record of 18-19 and a 3.79 ERA. He had his best year in 1924, after being acquired by the Senators via waivers from the Athletics in May of that year. Despite frequent sore-arm trouble, his 9-5 record, which included 3 shutouts, helped the Senators win their first AL pennant, by 2 games over the Yankees.

"Ogden became part of World Series lore in 1924 when Washington manager Bucky Harris started him in Game Seven as a ploy to fool Giants manager John McGraw. The idea was to get McGraw to play rookie first baseman Bill Terry and other left-hand batters against the right-handed Ogden, so that Harris then could bring in lefty George Mogridge. Terry, 6-for-12 at that point in the series, had not been playing against left-handers. The ruse worked. McGraw put Terry in the lineup, and Harris watched Ogden strike out Freddie Lindstrom and walk Frankie Frisch before bringing in his left-hander, who had warmed up secretly below the grandstands. The Nationals, behind the relief pitching of Walter Johnson, won in 12 innings to capture the team’s lone world championship."

The above quote is from SABR's bio of Ogden, which is an interesting read - here's the link for anyone whom I've enticed to read more: https://sabr.org/bioproj/person/afe5378e

PZdiaz110 05-10-2018 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ValKehl (Post 1775393)
Dave, below are pics of my 1924 Diaz card of Warren H. "Curly" Ogden. If you would like me to email you scans of this card, send me a PM with your email address.

"Curly" Ogden, whose brother John/"Jack" also pitched in the Majors, had a 5-year MLB career, with an overall W-L record of 18-19 and a 3.79 ERA. He had his best year in 1924, after being acquired by the Senators via waivers from the Athletics in May of that year. Despite frequent sore-arm trouble, his 9-5 record, which included 3 shutouts, helped the Senators win their first AL pennant, by 2 games over the Yankees.

"Ogden became part of World Series lore in 1924 when Washington manager Bucky Harris started him in Game Seven as a ploy to fool Giants manager John McGraw. The idea was to get McGraw to play rookie first baseman Bill Terry and other left-hand batters against the right-handed Ogden, so that Harris then could bring in lefty George Mogridge. Terry, 6-for-12 at that point in the series, had not been playing against left-handers. The ruse worked. McGraw put Terry in the lineup, and Harris watched Ogden strike out Freddie Lindstrom and walk Frankie Frisch before bringing in his left-hander, who had warmed up secretly below the grandstands. The Nationals, behind the relief pitching of Walter Johnson, won in 12 innings to capture the team’s lone world championship."

The above quote is from SABR's bio of Ogden, which is an interesting read - here's the link for anyone whom I've enticed to read more: https://sabr.org/bioproj/person/afe5378e

Thanks Val! I appreciate your response. Interesting read on Ogden too.

h2oya311 05-11-2018 04:22 PM

Val -

That's an awesome story about Ogden and starting game 7 of the 1924 World Series. Thanks for the color!!

Hankphenom 05-11-2018 05:09 PM

Great story, Val, one of many fascinating aspects of that game that has many historians (and many contemporary writers) declaring it the greatest single game in the history of baseball. Harris had previously worked that ruse effectively in a crucial game against Detroit in the heat of the pennant race during the season. He clearly didn't believe in letting one man beat his team, as his tactic against the red-hot Terry illustrates, and again later in the game when ordering his pitchers to intentionally walk the Giants best hitter, Ross Youngs, FOUR straight times in his last four at-bats. Like Terry, he wasn't going to let Youngs beat his team, either. They called the 27 year-old Harris "The Boy Wonder" manager for his genius in bringing the Nationals their first pennant and then the World's Championship against the mighty Giants, John McGraw's greatest team with four straight pennants and eight future hall of famers.


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