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Slinger 01-02-2018 10:34 PM

Any chance this T206 Cobb is authentic?
 
I am struggling with this one and have yet to see it in person. I reach out to you, the experts to give your opinions and thoughts on this one before I take the time to go look at it. Not sure if the seller is willing to let me send it to PSA prior to purchase. Haven't gotten that far yet. Is there any chance in you know where that this card could be authentic? Was said to have been purchased at an estate sale here in town in an upscale neighborhood. I really appreciate everyone's advice here. Thanks

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Bill77 01-02-2018 10:42 PM

I would say fake. The green is way to bright and anytime I see that crackle pattern on a card I know it is an aged reprint.

Slinger 01-02-2018 10:44 PM

Yeah I was thinking the same on the green. Then my google search for PSA graded cards has a few with that bright of a color. :confused:

What's the crackle you speak of? (rookie here clearly) Thanks!

I am wishing this one is real, but am so gun-shy to take a chance and waste my very limited hard earned dollars.

drcy 01-02-2018 10:58 PM

Fake

trdcrdkid 01-02-2018 10:58 PM

The combination of the bright green background and the dirty borders screams “fake” to me (probably artificially aged in tea or something). Clinching that verdict is the fact that, according to T206resource.com, green Cobb does not appear with an American Beauty 350 back. FAAAAAAAAKE.

http://t206resource.com/American%20B...Checklist.html

Sean 01-02-2018 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by trdcrdkid (Post 1735016)
The combination of the bright green background and the dirty borders screams “fake” to me (probably artificially aged in tea or something). Clinching that verdict is the fact that, according to T206resource.com, green Cobb does not appear with an American Beauty 350 back. FAAAAAAAAKE.

http://t206resource.com/American%20B...Checklist.html

The color is ridiculous, and David is right, there is no such thing as a Cobb Green with an American Beauty 350 back.

Slinger 01-02-2018 11:11 PM

You guys are awesome! So glad that I found and joined this forum. Thanks again!

Bill77 01-02-2018 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Slinger (Post 1735014)
What's the crackle you speak of? (rookie here clearly) Thanks!

When a card looks like cracked pavement it is a good indication that someone tried to age the card. Kind of looks like this.

frohme 01-03-2018 12:10 AM

Then again ...
 
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Originally Posted by Bill77 (Post 1735027)
When a card looks like cracked pavement it is a good indication that someone tried to age the card. Kind of looks like this.

As long as its not a T207 ... which crazes in a not too un-similar fashion (though most often on a small scale).

Aquarian Sports Cards 01-03-2018 04:46 AM

Also the printing of his name is one of the telltale signs of a fake, they never match the font or the color exactly right.

T206Collector 01-03-2018 06:54 AM

Bad fake and a poor attempt at artificial aging

-Color is wrong
-Cracks on surface filled with tea (or another stain)
-Font is bad
-Corners were clipped with scissors and them someone tried to make them look rounded by rubbing hem down
-American Beauty cards are thinner than that and would have thinner front borders side to side

Bored5000 01-03-2018 08:03 AM

I am glad the OP didn't get taken by spending money on a fake; the board should be all about helping collectors learn more, and there is plenty I don't know about the hobby. :)

But I am always at least somewhat surprised when new posters come on here and ask if raw high-dollar cards like a 52T Mantle or a green Cobb T206 are real. There is a reason cards that would be high dollar cards like that are being sold raw. Chances of finding some amazing steal of an iconic card are very small.

irv 01-03-2018 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Bored5000 (Post 1735081)
I am glad the OP didn't get taken by spending money on a fake; the board should be all about helping collectors learn more, and there is plenty I don't know about the hobby. :)

But I am always at least somewhat surprised when new posters come on here and ask if raw high-dollar cards like a 52T Mantle or a green Cobb T206 are real. There is a reason cards that would be high dollar cards like that are being sold raw. Chances of finding some amazing steal of an iconic card are very small.

I agree, and although there is no proof, I can't help but think these "new" guys are the scammer/forgers themselves and we provide them with everything they need to know in order to make their fakes better.

I say, if you are a true collector, post some of your collection/memorabilia and prove, through some means, that it is indeed your's.

Countless times this happens. A few posts to find out if something is real or not, then they disappear.

My thoughts, anyways.

Leon 01-03-2018 10:02 AM

For the record I just spoke with the OP on the phone. While it's almost impossible to be 100% about some registration things, our new member seemed like a nice young guy on an unexpected phone call, who had a few dingers thrown at him. There is a large percentage of the time, in my experiences, that when the OP passes this kind of scrutiny they turn out ok. :cool:

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Bored5000 01-03-2018 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1735102)
For the record I just spoke with the OP on the phone. While it's almost impossible to be 100% about some registration things, our new member seemed like a nice young guy on an unexpected phone call, who had a few dingers thrown at him. There is a large percentage of the time, in my experiences, that when the OP passes this kind of scrutiny they turn out ok. :cool:

.

I am glad to hear that, Leon. :) Hopefully, the OP stays around here and develops a love of the hobby. My intent with my earlier post was not to sound harsh. The board is wonderful for how helpful it is.

But the chances are of finding a steal of an iconic raw Cobb/Mantle/Ruth/Wagner card are pretty close to zero. There aren't a whole lot of posts asking if a $50 T206 is real, although it does happen once in a while.

Slinger 01-03-2018 09:43 PM

Again, I appreciate all of your input and experience. You have helped me avoid wasting money. :D

Trojan4Life 01-04-2018 08:44 AM

Fake, The colors definitely off. I think the back gives it away too.


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