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doug.goodman 04-27-2019 04:31 PM

OT - Bellinger "record"
 
This post should probably be in the watercooler section, but does anybody actually ever go there?

Leon - feel free to move it if you feel it's best...

Bellinger got his 88th total base last night, breaking the record for most before May 1.

I'm a Dodger fan, and I like the kid, so I'm happy that he set a record, such as it is, and with 4 more games he will probably extend it, but...

In this era of incredibly stupid stats, when the season starts in March, I am curious what the record is for TB in the first 32 games of the season, which is how many games the Dodgers are playing this year, before May 1.

I half way randomly chose to look at the 1927 Yankees and found that Lou Gehrig had 100 total bases in the first 32 games. He had 87 thru the first 28 games, so Bellinger "beat" him.

I'm not sure how to check other players / years in a way that is faster than my brute force check every game on Retrosheet method. If anybody else knows how to do it, I'm sure I'm not the only one who would be curious about that "record".

Thanx,
Doug

doug.goodman 04-27-2019 04:41 PM

PS
 
Ruth had 90 thru 28 games in 1921, but then went 0-10 in the next 4 games (with 9 walks).

Doug

Peter_Spaeth 04-27-2019 05:16 PM

In this snowflake era he's probably one swing or slide away from the DL.:eek:

I hope not, but it seems the way of today's game.

frankbmd 04-27-2019 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1873272)
In this snowflake era he's probably one swing or slide away from the DL.:eek:

I hope not, but it seems the way of today's game.

Groin strains are endemic in SoCal. Just ask Trout

calvindog 04-27-2019 06:10 PM

Remember when the season started in April? And ended in October?

Marchillo 04-27-2019 08:40 PM

A fun Bellinger fact is that Clay and Cody had played in 6 seasons prior to 2019, Clay 1999-2001 Yankees and 2002 Angels and Cody 2017-2018 Dodgers with all 6 teams appearing in the World Series.

Peter_Spaeth 04-27-2019 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Marchillo (Post 1873329)
A fun Bellinger fact is that Clay and Cody had played in 6 seasons prior to 2019, Clay 1999-2001 Yankees and 2002 Angels and Cody 2017-2018 Dodgers with all 6 teams appearing in the World Series.

Hmmm.... I don't remember him being on the Angels at all. Not that I remember every player, but have a pretty good memory for playoffs.

frankbmd 04-27-2019 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1873336)
Hmmm.... I don't remember him being on the Angels at all. Not that I remember every player, but have a pretty good memory for playoffs.

How could you forget that Clay Bellinger played two games for the 2002 Angels?

In his single plate appearance he struck out. I don’t believe he was on their post season roster, although it is doubtful that the Angels would have made it to the post season without his contribution.:rolleyes:

Peter_Spaeth 04-27-2019 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frankbmd (Post 1873340)
How could you forget that Clay Bellinger played two games for the 2002 Angels?

In his single plate appearance he struck out. I don’t believe he was on their post season roster, although it is doubtful that the Angels would have made it to the post season without his contribution.:rolleyes:

LOL I missed that game I guess. OK, thanks.

Marchillo 04-27-2019 09:44 PM

I didn’t say he was on the playoff roster. It’s just interesting that between the two of them they appeared in 6 seasons with all the teams going to the World Series.

doug.goodman 04-28-2019 01:21 AM

When I saw all the posts to this thread I got excited that somebody had actually answered by question...

Oh well.

Doug "he was 0-3 tonight" Goodman

oldjudge 04-29-2019 01:27 AM

Another HR today and a few more RBIs. Of course, he hit this off T Williams (Ted?, or some other pitcher who lost his head before facing Bellinger).

barrysloate 04-29-2019 03:45 AM

His slugging pct. is .913.

z28jd 04-29-2019 09:23 AM

I don't know the answer, but I found that Jimmie Foxx had 109 in his first 32 games in 1932 and Chuck Klein had 107 in his first 32 games in 1930

rlevy 04-29-2019 09:29 AM

Hi Doug,

The Dodger announcers did comment on the earlier season staring date, but only in relation to Chase Utley's record for most total bases by May 1. They said Bellinger had broken Utley's record in fewer games played as well as by May1, but didn't discuss any other scenarios. If you don't use a date to compare, then it can get pretty random, like most total bases after 37 games, then 38 games, to the point where, who cares. But baseball announcers are pretty good at coming up with random statistics and comparisons.

It is interesting to watch Bellinger this year, He has cut his strike-outs in half (last year 27%, this year 13 1/2%), and is hitting the ball hard nearly every time he makes contact. I'm sure pitchers will adjust how they pitch him. I've been a fan of his since his rookie year and he is the only current Dodger I collect game used items of.

Rick

clydepepper 04-29-2019 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frankbmd (Post 1873276)
Groin strains are endemic in SoCal. Just ask Trout



Now I'm no doctor, but maybe he'll get an oblique in his groin?


I know, I know...follow that with the obligatory groan.


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itslarry 04-29-2019 11:25 AM

Either way the dudes on fire.
I'd like to see Kershaw win one before he has to retire.

So go Dodgers I guess.

doug.goodman 04-29-2019 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by z28jd (Post 1873640)
I don't know the answer, but I found that Jimmie Foxx had 109 in his first 32 games in 1932 and Chuck Klein had 107 in his first 32 games in 1930

Thank you

rlevy 04-29-2019 12:10 PM

As of games thru Sunday, Bellinger has 111 total bases through 30 games (14 HR, 1 triple, 6 doubles, 23 singles, 17 walks). And he didn't play at all in one of those games. 3.7 bases per game average.

Rick

pokerplyr80 04-29-2019 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doug.goodman (Post 1873354)
When I saw all the posts to this thread I got excited that somebody had actually answered by question...

Oh well.

Doug "he was 0-3 tonight" Goodman

Yes people do go to the water cooler section. Hope that answers your question.

doug.goodman 04-29-2019 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rlevy (Post 1873690)
As of games thru Sunday, Bellinger has 111 total bases through 30 games (14 HR, 1 triple, 6 doubles, 23 singles, 17 walks). And he didn't play at all in one of those games. 3.7 bases per game average.

Rick

Walks do not count toward total bases, only hits, so Bellinger is at 94.

Hank Aaron had 107 TB thru 30 games in 1959, plus 11 walks.

rlevy 04-29-2019 04:53 PM

Never knew that walks didn't figure in total bases. I know total bases is used in calculating slugging %, but I was always told that a walk was as good as a hit.:)

Rick


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