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YankeeCollector 06-25-2011 10:41 PM

Lelands Auction- Mathewson 1898 team photo
 
Anyone here win this item?

I was the high bidder until 3:52 am. I was certain I had won this 1898 Honesdale BAseball club team photo which included Mathewson.

Has anyone ever seen this before?

Thanks

Preece1 06-25-2011 11:33 PM

Something didn't look right about the photo to me.
 
I don't think it was from 1898.

YankeeCollector 06-26-2011 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Preece1 (Post 903735)
I don't think it was from 1898.

are you saying an item from a major auction house was questionable?

Bicem 06-26-2011 06:39 PM

what about it concerns you Patrick?

Preece1 06-26-2011 08:23 PM

Don't know
 
I have acquired some photos over the last year or so and am still really getting up to speed. But, something just doesn't look right to me. I was hoping some of the photo experts could chime in here.

prewarsports 06-26-2011 10:03 PM

I can second what Patrick is saying. It is a "type 2 photo" if you want to use that terminology (which I dont like by the way). That type of photo paper was not used in 1898. I would say it was probably produced during Matty's lifetime but not in 1898, more likely about 1915 would be my guess. Still a cool item but if it cost the buyer more than a few hundred bucks it was probably too much but hey, I overpay for things I want all the time so that is subjective, but I would value it around $200-$300 at the most.

YankeeCollector 06-26-2011 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by prewarsports (Post 904034)
I can second what Patrick is saying. It is a "type 2 photo" if you want to use that terminology (which I dont like by the way). That type of photo paper was not used in 1898. I would say it was probably produced during Matty's lifetime but not in 1898, more likely about 1915 would be my guess. Still a cool item but if it cost the buyer more than a few hundred bucks it was probably too much but hey, I overpay for things I want all the time so that is subjective, but I would value it around $200-$300 at the most.

It went for $5500+ with buyers premium. wow. The description was vague but I was wondering why it wasn't authenticated.

bbcard1 06-27-2011 10:07 AM

Personally, I'm saving up for this beauty in a future auction...I can't be sure, but isn't that Ty Cobb beside Matty...what makes it tough to recognize them is that they are both wearing "shower caps."
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/e...attudefull.jpg

D. Bergin 06-27-2011 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by prewarsports (Post 904034)
I can second what Patrick is saying. It is a "type 2 photo" if you want to use that terminology (which I dont like by the way). That type of photo paper was not used in 1898. I would say it was probably produced during Matty's lifetime but not in 1898, more likely about 1915 would be my guess. Still a cool item but if it cost the buyer more than a few hundred bucks it was probably too much but hey, I overpay for things I want all the time so that is subjective, but I would value it around $200-$300 at the most.



After looking at it, I agree 100%.

I like Lelands and probably win more things from them then any other auction house I bid on..........but you really have to do your research with their photographic offerings.

This is not a unique occurrence...................with them or any sports auction house I know of in regards to vintage photos. The same research that's put into cards and other memorabilia, doesn't seem to be put into vintage photos.

bcbgcbrcb 06-27-2011 11:38 AM

That's Joe Jackson not Ty Cobb

HRBAKER 06-27-2011 11:39 AM

And that's the Matty "White Cap, Black Box" variation.

bbcard1 06-27-2011 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by bcbgcbrcb (Post 904147)
That's Joe Jackson not Ty Cobb

Pantless Joe Jackson?

Leon 06-27-2011 12:28 PM

nice
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HRBAKER (Post 904148)
And that's the Matty "White Cap, Black Box" variation.

I could have done without the "black box"....been there done that :). More discussion at the National dinner, after many beers, on that topic.

HRBAKER 06-28-2011 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 904160)
I could have done without the "black box"....been there done that :). More discussion at the National dinner, after many beers, on that topic.

Looking forward to it! :)


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