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cammb 08-27-2021 10:18 AM

Another Trivia Question.
 
Who was baseballs first "Hold Out"

mrreality68 08-27-2021 10:21 AM

Was it ty cobb?

I think he held out for like $4k in the early 1910’s.

Bram99 08-27-2021 10:23 AM

possible answer
 
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Originally Posted by cammb (Post 2138839)
Who was baseballs first "Hold Out"

Ty Cobb in 1913?

molenick 08-27-2021 10:29 AM

Without checking details, I recall something about Amos Rusie holding out. Not sure what year it was.

Mark17 08-27-2021 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by cammb (Post 2138839)
Who was baseballs first "Hold Out"

I hope it wasn't McWeeny.............. :rolleyes:

cammb 08-27-2021 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by molenick (Post 2138845)
Without checking details, I recall something about Amos Rusie holding out. Not sure what year it was.

Getting close.

molenick 08-27-2021 10:55 AM

After doing some research, I see Rusie held out for all of 1896, so I guess it's someone before that (duh). No one comes to mind, but I will keep trying.

darwinbulldog 08-27-2021 10:58 AM

Mullane?

charlietheexterminator 08-27-2021 11:08 AM

Bernie Meyer

Mark 08-27-2021 11:31 AM

King Kelly?

cammb 08-27-2021 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by darwinbulldog (Post 2138856)
Mullane?

No

cammb 08-27-2021 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlietheexterminator (Post 2138858)
Bernie Meyer


No

chadeast 08-27-2021 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark (Post 2138863)
King Kelly?

Great guess. I'm going to say Brouthers.

cammb 08-27-2021 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark (Post 2138863)
King Kelly?


No

judsonhamlin 08-27-2021 11:59 AM

I’ll go Monte Ward, but only because Mullane was wrong

clydepepper 08-27-2021 12:22 PM

+1 - Ward is who I had in mind...just not quite fast enough.


or...perhaps...Jim Devlin?

Kidnapped18 08-27-2021 01:02 PM

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chadeast 08-27-2021 01:17 PM

Do we have any Players League experts here? I'm thinking there's a decent chance that this could have been one of the precursors to the formation of the league.

cammb 08-27-2021 08:19 PM

I will post the answer tomorrow

5-Tool Player 08-27-2021 08:48 PM

answer
 
Tyrus Raymond Cobb

cammb 08-28-2021 09:48 AM

The answer is Joe Gerhardt. In 1884, he turned down an offer of $1800. He then was offered $2000. Instead, he accepted the $1800 and demanded carte blanche at the bar in the Louisville stadium . The owners gladly accepted. Reading up on Gerhardt, He was not a good hitter but was considered the best second baseman defensively of his time.

Kidnapped18 08-28-2021 11:46 AM

George Wright, who had been the greatest player in the land for a decade, with the Red Stockings of Cincinnati and then Boston, in 1879 led the Providence Grays to the championship. On April 21, 1880, however, he declined the club’s final contract offer, perhaps preferring to stay in Boston and mind his sporting-goods business. As a reserved player, however, he was obligated to play for Providence and no other; he elected to sit out the season (although he did inexplicably play in a game for Boston on May 29).


From John Thorn's Baseball in the Garden of Eden

chadeast 08-28-2021 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by cammb (Post 2139143)
The answer is Joe Gerhardt. In 1884, he turned down an offer of $1800. He then was offered $2000. Instead, he accepted the $1800 and demanded carte blanche at the bar in the Louisville stadium . The owners gladly accepted. Reading up on Gerhardt, He was not a good hitter but was considered the best second baseman defensively of his time.

That's funny! I know that Bid McPhee was/is widely regarded as the best defensive second basemen of the 19th century, but it looks like Joe's career preceded Bid's by a good 10 years or so. Thanks for that bit of history.

cammb 08-28-2021 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Kidnapped18 (Post 2139168)
George Wright, who had been the greatest player in the land for a decade, with the Red Stockings of Cincinnati and then Boston, in 1879 led the Providence Grays to the championship. On April 21, 1880, however, he declined the club’s final contract offer, perhaps preferring to stay in Boston and mind his sporting-goods business. As a reserved player, however, he was obligated to play for Providence and no other; he elected to sit out the season (although he did inexplicably play in a game for Boston on May 29).


From John Thorn's Baseball in the Garden of Eden

I think that Wright was a free agent at the time. While checking out George Wright, I discovered that he was the first National League Batter.


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