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Scott Garner 04-22-2018 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Bicem (Post 1769783)
Nice find Kris!

+1!!

h2oya311 04-23-2018 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by T206Jim (Post 1768404)
JC, I'd estimate out of the 150 photos in my lots approximately 10% where not Type 1s. Sometimes however the other types are much cooler! Check out this Lajoie. First is the base image. The second is the image with the floating head (a clearer image) attached (note the glue marks on the first image). The third shows both and the fourth is a published example of FrankenLajoie. This was photoshop circa 1910. A fascinating look at the editing craft.

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Jim - I like that there was a photo-bomber behind Lajoie in those images...well, his legs at least...

TCMA 04-24-2018 07:18 PM

Another find in my lots. Both of these shots are of Al Demaree but the top photo was used for his 1914 T222 Fatima card:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...d244e76181.jpg

Interestingly, the backgrounds are completely different:

http://www.vintagecardprices.com/pics/54886.jpg




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horzverti 04-24-2018 07:54 PM

I have to be honest, I really regret not bidding on any of these lots. The hidden gems remind of how buying sometimes was in the past. Surprise Conlons, Thompsons and photos used for pre-war...great stuff guys! Needless to write, but bids will be probably be nuts next time around for these types of lots.

Bicem 04-24-2018 10:33 PM

Great find Andrew! Had no idea they doctored the backgrounds on the Fatima cards.

I've been going through my winnings the past few days, will post some finds soon.

Forever Young 04-25-2018 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TCMA (Post 1770382)
Another find in my lots. Both of these shots are of Al Demaree but the top photo was used for his 1914 T222 Fatima card:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...d244e76181.jpg

Interestingly, the backgrounds are completely different:

http://www.vintagecardprices.com/pics/54886.jpg




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Now you need to find the photo that the background was used for.. :o

btcarfagno 04-26-2018 10:52 AM

Nice buried pair here. There are others, but these two are my favorites:

1912 World Series action photo by Conlon

http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/y...psxsfy9hhs.jpg


Thompson portrait photo of Harry Pulliam on which is written on the back "Harry Pulliam Who Shot Himself Yesterday"...just amazing

http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/y...pswsm0huah.jpg

TCMA 04-26-2018 10:56 AM

Christie's Buried Treasure thread
 
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Originally Posted by btcarfagno (Post 1770853)
Nice buried pair here. There are others, but these two are my favorites:

1912 World Series action photo by Conlon

Great shot but can't be the 1912 World Series, which was Boston vs. NY Giants. That shot is Boston vs. the NY Highlanders at Hilltop Park, north of the Polo Grounds [emoji4] .

TCMA 04-26-2018 10:58 AM

More importantly, that photo is the center panel on this T202 triple folder:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/38/88...2ef436d33f.jpg

btcarfagno 04-26-2018 11:04 AM

That it is!. You're full of bad news for me but gave me some good news at the end there. I like it! I didn't see where the Highlanders had the crest on their sleeves but now I see they did in 1909 and 1910. Oops.

Those triple folders are just so cool!

TCMA 04-26-2018 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by btcarfagno (Post 1770859)
That it is!. You're full of bad news for me but gave me some good news at the end there. I like it! I didn't see where the Highlanders had the crest on their sleeves but now I see they did in 1909 and 1910. Oops.

Those triple folders are just so cool!

What's the photo under Harry Pulliam? That's definitely at the Polo Grounds.

btcarfagno 04-26-2018 12:09 PM

There are two that seem to have both been taken there. Heinie Zimmerman in a smaller photo and a larger one of Miller Huggins and Larry Maclean is just behind that one.

Kris19 05-08-2018 07:01 PM

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In case you don't regularly check the BST where this photo was just posted for sale, I wanted to share the story of another buried treasure discovered. This photo captures Honus Wagner receiving the "Honey Boy" Evans trophy for winning the batting title in 1908. The beautiful trophy now resides in the Hall of Fame.

Although there is no stamp on the back of the photo, it was attributed to Paul Thompson when previously sold and the handwriting on the back is a perfect match to another Wagner photo that does have Thompson’s stamp (see the third image showing the OTHER photo with the Thompson stamp).

Additional information on the trophy is found on the Hall of Fame website:
https://baseballhall.org/discover-mo...ney-boy-trophy

"In May 1908, the Los Angeles Times reported that “George Evans, the song writer and comedian, has offered a…..cup for the champion batter of the world for the season of 1908. The cup will be known as the ‘Honey Boy Evans Cup.’ ” Two years later the Washington Post noted: “George Evans, the star of the ‘Honey Boy Minstrels,’ has probably taken first honors as the most enthusiastic baseball ‘bug’ of the present day. Mr. Evans annually backs up his enthusiasm as the champion ‘fan’ by presenting a trophy known to all baseball players as the ‘Honey Boy’ trophy to the batsman of the American or National League attaining the highest batting average of the season.”

The inaugural trophy for the 1908 season was presented to Pirates shortstop Honus Wagner on May 20, 1909, prior to a home game in Pittsburgh. He topped the nearest competitor by 20 points with his .354 average in 1908. The New York Times reported “The 7,000 people who braved the dark clouds and the damp, shivery weather saw Wagner presented with a silver trophy in the shape of a cup…..The huge cup having been brought out to the home plate by a little boy, and Wagner, having shuffled up to the plate with his hat off, Joe Humphreys made the presentation speech akin to a marriage vow. “Take it and honor it and treasure it and—‘Obey it,’ yelled somebody in the bleachers, ‘until death do us part.’ ‘Fill it up, Wagner! Fill it up!’ yelled the bleachers.”

Bpm0014 05-09-2018 06:22 AM

Really neat!!

Exhibitman 05-09-2018 09:44 AM

This is a great thread. Please keep it going all you auction winners.

Jobu 05-10-2018 03:46 PM

+1

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Originally Posted by Exhibitman (Post 1774913)
This is a great thread. Please keep it going all you auction winners.


T206Jim 05-11-2018 05:04 PM

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Here is a rare Jack Chesbro from circa 1908, likely from Spring Training in Atlanta. Chesbro photos are tough!

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photomoto 05-14-2018 09:46 PM

christies buried treasure thread
 
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Originally Posted by btcarfagno (Post 1766894)
I posted a thread in this section several days ago regarding a Ty Cobb photo in one of the lots that I won. The photo is very clear and almost certainly from the original negative. Only question to me is whether a type one or type two. If it turns out to be a type one (which I have a feeling that it is), I will be more than a little bit happy.

A Ty Cobb full size type one with full borders dated to 1907 by Cahrles Conlon? Yes please!

Was not photographed or even mentioned in the write up.

http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/y...psh7sjikfr.jpg

http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/y...psoftu4sbv.jpg

That's an interesting "Cobb" image. In my experience, the Spalding stamp usually means that the print was made in the 1920s. The image itself is the last photo pictured in the McCabe's classic "Baseball's Golden Age", showing Conlon's prints from original negatives. The photo is identified as a 1910 shot of Hack Simmons. Dennis Goldstein

T206Jim 05-16-2018 04:49 PM

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I just discovered that Baker swung a 52 ounce bat, most modern bats are 32 ounces. This photo has always struck me as such an evocative image of the Deadball Era and that size differential might explain why the photo is so striking to the modern eye.

Snapolit1 05-16-2018 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by T206Jim (Post 1777450)
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I just discovered that Baker swung a 52 ounce bat, most modern bats are 32 ounces. This photo has always struck me as such an evocative image of the Deadball Era and that size differential might explain why the photo is so striking to the modern eye.

52 ounces!!!! He looks like he weights 170 pounds! Wow.

TCMA 05-19-2018 08:39 AM

Here's a great shot of Chief Meyers from one of my Giants lots. Back in 2006 this photo sold for over $1k more than I paid for the entire lot:

Sold for $3851.05
https://lelands.com/bids/bidplace?itemid=30724


https://lelands.com/images_items/item_30724_1.jpg

T206Jim 06-01-2018 09:45 PM

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Kid Nichols Type 1 Conlon photo from 1904, Charles Conlon's rookie year as a baseball photographer, neatly tucked away within the lot. I can't find Type 1 unmounted photos from Nichols playing days anywhere, are they as rare as they appear to be? The page shown is the lead image from the book The Big Show Charles M. Conlon's Golden Age Baseball Photoraphs.

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WillowGrove 06-02-2018 07:42 AM

A beauty Jim. Congrats!

photomoto 06-02-2018 11:33 PM

christies buried treasure thread
 
Nice photo. Original Nichols photos are rare, although there were four other nice ones in the Christies auction. Also, there are a few nice earlier ones from Chickering or other photographs that have been sold. Dennis

T206Jim 06-06-2018 07:37 PM

For anyone wanting to see more of the Christies photos, we have posted forty photos on the BST at this thread link:

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=255989


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