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Leon 04-16-2018 09:06 AM

A Large Amount of Fraud in Our Hobby Today- Daniel Desmond aka Daniel Paul
 
If anyone doesn't know there has been a lot of counterfeit/fake T213-1 Coupon cards going around for at least the last year or two. They are skinned T206s with inkjet printed backs that are scary good. There are also a lot of rare back T206s done the same way...Lenox, CB etc..... So far no authorities will help, FBI, local or any others. They say they can't get their prosecutors to take the low hanging fruit we gave them. At any rate this seller looks to be someone who probably got swindled and is now selling them. The MO was they came out of a scrapbook. Beckett was the first to discover them as I brought some examples to them to look at. SGC and PSA are aware of them too. Most (or all) of the fraud will be raw cards. It is allegedly the author of the restoration article that is doing it, Daniel Desmond. He has been in California but we believe he might have aliases and addresses in other places. Caveat Emptor!! (I should add that one of our members is out several thousand dollars due to this fraud)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/T206-Lenox-...oAAOSwqHBa08qy

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ullmandds 04-16-2018 09:34 AM

in the ebay link you posted, Leon...the front looks fake too?

Leon 04-16-2018 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1767887)
in the ebay link you posted, Leon...the front looks fake too?

Can't say for sure. I have handled approximately 27 of the fake/counterfeits and none had fake fronts. All were skinned T206s with advanced inkjet printed backs. I am not an expert but couldn't tell what was done to them until it was pointed out to me. Some other very seasoned collectors also couldn't tell.

njdunkin1 04-16-2018 10:09 AM

Thanks for the post, Leon. Was keen on bidding until I saw the update.

PiratesWS1979 04-16-2018 10:13 AM

I purchased two about six months ago and thanks to this board, returned one immediately.
I still have the other and didn't pay a huge price so it's a nice fantasy piece.

BruceinGa 04-16-2018 11:41 AM

Thanks for the heads up Leon!

Mdmtx 04-16-2018 12:18 PM

It is amazing who all posts in these threads. Most frauds are a slam dunkin to expose, while others are more difficult ...


Mark Medlin

Leon 04-16-2018 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mdmtx (Post 1767936)
It is amazing who all posts in these threads. Most frauds are a slam dunkin to expose, while others are more difficult ...


Mark Medlin

Who all?

Mdmtx 04-16-2018 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1767938)
Who all?

Since my post seems a little vague, it was pointed at mr Dunkin.


Mark Medlin

Leon 04-16-2018 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mdmtx (Post 1767939)
Since my post seems a little vague, it was pointed at mr Dunkin.
Mark Medlin

I had two messages from him. We'll see how it goes...


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