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Leon 05-10-2022 07:55 AM

Does This T206 Look Trimmed?
 
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Just getting some opinions...

thanks in advance..

iwantitiwinit 05-10-2022 07:58 AM

Slight diamond cut, I think it's good unless they sliced a tiny bit off both the top and bottom border. The top being slightly shorter on the upper right edge and slightly longer on the bottom right edge.

ullmandds 05-10-2022 08:03 AM

I think trimmed

sb1 05-10-2022 08:03 AM

Nope...

npa589 05-10-2022 08:21 AM

Looks good to me from this vantage point

Scott L. 05-10-2022 08:28 AM

I'd also say slight diamond and not trimmed.

KCRfan1 05-10-2022 08:47 AM

My untrained four eyes say the card has been on a slight diet.

Leon, do you know if the card is trimmed or not and you are checking our eyesight?

rjackson44 05-10-2022 08:48 AM

no

thatkidfromjerrymaguire 05-10-2022 09:32 AM

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I say no, but admittedly I'm not very good at detecting those "micro trimmed" cards.

The only time I can say for sure a card is trimmed is if it's super obvious. Like this one....I'm PRETTY SURE this card is trimmed:

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Leon 05-10-2022 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by KCRfan1 (Post 2223515)
My untrained four eyes say the card has been on a slight diet.

Leon, do you know if the card is trimmed or not and you are checking our eyesight?

I don't know for sure. It has been described as trimmed in an auction setting. Personally, I don't think it is trimmed.
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Luke 05-10-2022 10:30 AM

No

brianp-beme 05-10-2022 10:49 AM

Looks untrimmed to me...I have seen a lot of T206 that have a cut similar to this card.

Brian

brunswickreeves 05-10-2022 10:54 AM

The fraying and pressing in the corners looks natural, thus hard to replicate if a trimmed edge. But could only truly tell for sure if overlay another authentic/unaltered T206 under or on top.

brianp-beme 05-10-2022 10:54 AM

I think the bottom edge in the pictures is tricking the eye, because if you look at it close you can see the card is slightly curled, causing the eye-deceiving shadow.

Brian

3-2-count 05-10-2022 11:18 AM

I think it looks fine.

Lobo Aullando 05-10-2022 11:33 AM

I busted out a couple 3s from SGC holders and subbed to PSA, and they came back... N1 – Evid Trim.

By my eye – and some dude in Florida thought the same thing years prior – the corners were natural, there was no excess chipping, the size was within tolerance, the edges weren't wavy, and the beveling was present.

Is there some new way of analyzing the edges that we don't know about?

robertsmithnocure 05-10-2022 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by brunswickreeves (Post 2223577)
The fraying and pressing in the corners looks natural, thus hard to replicate if a trimmed edge. But could only truly tell for sure if overlay another authentic/unaltered T206 under or on top.

Not following. Why would overlaying it into another T206 let you know for sure? Don’t T206 cards vary quite a bit in size?

For what it is worth, it looks original and not trimmed to me.

Leon 05-10-2022 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by robertsmithnocure (Post 2223608)
Not following. Why would overlaying it into another T206 let you know for sure? Don’t T206 cards vary quite a bit in size?

For what it is worth, it looks original and not trimmed to me.

Yes, T206s can vary in size. This one is kind of drastic but there are minor size differences.

https://luckeycards.com/t206j.jpg

T205 GB 05-10-2022 01:55 PM

Along the top border and the right border you can see the tell tale rolling of the paper due to cutting. A lot of people miss this unique characteristic of T cards and how they were cut. I am sure there are some experts in this area that will chime in so hopefully I did them proud with my explanation. :)

T205 GB 05-10-2022 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Lobo Aullando (Post 2223590)
I busted out a couple 3s from SGC holders and subbed to PSA, and they came back... N1 – Evid Trim.

By my eye – and some dude in Florida thought the same thing years prior – the corners were natural, there was no excess chipping, the size was within tolerance, the edges weren't wavy, and the beveling was present.

Is there some new way of analyzing the edges that we don't know about?


Yes and no. Not really new as much as it is a lost art. Looking at the edges can show either the typical pulling and cutting of the paper, which pulls paper fibers out of the edges leaving microscopic voids, found with prewar cards. Or you see the precise cut with a solid edge and none of that fiber pull out. Those are the ones I am wary of. We did not cut cards that way in the 1900's.

mrreality68 05-10-2022 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by T205 GB (Post 2223639)
Along the top border and the right border you can see the tell tale rolling of the paper due to cutting. A lot of people miss this unique characteristic of T cards and how they were cut. I am sure there are some experts in this area that will chime in so hopefully I did them proud with my explanation. :)

wow good stuff and good learning

To me it looks good but I am not an expert so do not count my uneducated (but trying to learn) experience

Leon 05-10-2022 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by T205 GB (Post 2223639)
Along the top border and the right border you can see the tell tale rolling of the paper due to cutting. A lot of people miss this unique characteristic of T cards and how they were cut. I am sure there are some experts in this area that will chime in so hopefully I did them proud with my explanation. :)

I think you are imagining things on this card, though I don't disagree with your thoughts on the telltale signs.
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Lorewalker 05-10-2022 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 2223543)
I don't know for sure. It has been described as trimmed in an auction setting. Personally, I don't think it is trimmed.
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I am going with your vote. It does not appear trimmed.

Aaron Seefeldt 05-10-2022 03:45 PM

Yes
 
Bottom edge looks trimmed to me. More obvious on left side where you can see the “paper pull”

Kidnapped18 05-10-2022 04:18 PM

My vote is not trimmed...Card looks good to me

perezfan 05-10-2022 06:23 PM

I also think it's okay... just a slight diamond cut.

Bpm0014 05-10-2022 07:58 PM

Not at all. No.

FrankWakefield 05-10-2022 09:01 PM

If you're asking if some TPG will say it's trimmed, that's a crapshoot.

I think the card is fine; not trimmed.

If you sell that card to someone who eventually thinks it's trimmed, let them know that I'll buy T206's trimmed like that.


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