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t206hound 02-03-2014 06:59 AM

What did I miss on this Pelty?
 
First off, I'm not suggesting any kind of funny business with the auction. I am just really curious at the price...

Ran across this last night... how is it that three separate bidders each went $81 or higher? I know that there is some demand for the horizontals, but with soft corners, a crease, back paper loss and a pencil mark... really? $86?

What is it that I'm not seeing?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/370995085775

I Only Smoke 4 the Cards 02-03-2014 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t206hound (Post 1235965)
First off, I'm not suggesting any kind of funny business with the auction. I am just really curious at the price...

Ran across this last night... how is it that three separate bidders each went $81 or higher? I know that there is some demand for the horizontals, but with soft corners, a crease, back paper loss and a pencil mark... really? $86?

What is it that I'm not seeing?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/370995085775

Was there anything about the factory?

z28jd 02-03-2014 07:27 AM

If you look at the recent end prices, his cards seem to be going up in value. Also check out active listings for this card...there isn't one on ebay right now, so if someone wanted one, that was their only option. I would say, if you have an extra one of these cards, now is the time to put in on ebay because....insert supply and demand spiel here

joeadcock 02-03-2014 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by z28jd (Post 1235977)
If you look at the recent end prices, his cards seem to be going up in value. Also check out active listings for this card...there isn't one on ebay right now, so if someone wanted one, that was their only option......

Agreed

t206hound 02-03-2014 08:02 AM

ugh
 
go figure... Pelty Horizontal is one of the 101 I don't have. Ugh. Don't want to pay $150 for an (otherwise) common.

I Only Smoke 4 the Cards 02-03-2014 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by t206hound (Post 1235994)
go figure... Pelty Horizontal is one of the 101 I don't have. Ugh. Don't want to pay $150 for an (otherwise) common.

I feel you on this one.

mark evans 02-03-2014 08:09 AM

Demand for Pelty could be greater than otherwise expected due to collectors who chase cards of Jewish ballplayers.

I Only Smoke 4 the Cards 02-03-2014 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by mark evans (Post 1235997)
Demand for Pelty could be greater than otherwise expected due to collectors who chase cards of Jewish ballplayers.

I would have never thought of that.

z28jd 02-03-2014 08:23 AM

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I think it has to be more than the Jewish aspect, because his vertical card is plentiful on ebay right now and ending prices recently are in line with your average common player. The horizontal card is the one getting the bump. You may have a case where there is a hoarder out there and it's the next Titus card.

I bought one of his cards with a split back and a color missing in his collar and thought I overpaid for it just to get it, but now it looks like I didn't. I also like how it looks like he has eye white on(it's supposed to be black Mr. Pelty) due to the registration

Exhibitman 02-03-2014 08:49 AM

Jewish ballplayer in T206

+ Horizontal image.

+ Limited series [150 only?]

= higher price than a typical card.

marcdelpercio 02-03-2014 08:54 AM

That was my listing. Definitely no funny business with the auction. I recently upgraded mine and listed this one. The prices on this card have drastically spiked recently, much like the Titus card. There was always a bit of a premium on this card, for all the reasons people have mentioned, but I don't have a good answer for why the prices have increased as significantly as they have. Mine actually went for a little less than some others in similar condition recently.

bbsports 02-03-2014 08:57 AM

Not all horizontals are short print, but the Pelty is.

bigtrain 02-03-2014 09:06 AM

I won the auction. Did I pay more than I wanted to? Of course. This is one of the few commons I need and I have been chasing it for a while. Add that to the fact that I lost two other cards last night in the last second and yes, I pulled the trigger on this one. Also, I have done business with Marc several times in the past and know that he is a top-notch seller. BTW there are no other Pelty horizontals available on ebay at the moment.

marcdelpercio 02-03-2014 09:17 AM

Thank you, Tom, for the purchase and the kind words.

peterose4hof 02-03-2014 10:13 AM

I will second that Marc is a great seller. I have made at least a half dozen purchases from him on the B/S/T and the transactions were always flawless.

Runscott 02-03-2014 10:17 AM

Marc is a great buyer as well - very pleasant to do business with, on either end.

toppcat 02-03-2014 10:29 AM

I have not bought from him in a while but Marc is top notch in my book as a seller. This Pelty is a great example of how a seemingly common card can be a real barnburner when it comes to T206 sales.

GoldenAge50s 02-03-2014 10:34 AM

I just listed a very nice one. We'll see what happens.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/251442238830...#ht_3084wt_892

z28jd 02-03-2014 10:34 AM

Hey, one just showed up on ebay for only $145 ungraded! Tremendous eye-appeal! :)

GoldenAge50s 02-03-2014 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by z28jd (Post 1236054)
Hey, one just showed up on ebay for only $145 ungraded! Tremendous eye-appeal! :)

Well, it DOES have a great look to it!:D

slipk1068 02-03-2014 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldenAge50s (Post 1236053)
I just listed a very nice one. We'll see what happens.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/251442238830...#ht_3084wt_892

Quote:

Originally Posted by z28jd (Post 1236054)
Hey, one just showed up on ebay for only $145 ungraded! Tremendous eye-appeal! :)

That was gone quickly :(

marcdelpercio 02-03-2014 10:44 AM

Wow, guys...thank you all for the nice words. Very nice card that Fred listed. I think somebody got a deal on that one.

GoldenAge50s 02-03-2014 10:47 AM

It lasted about 13 mins from the time it was viewable.

Runscott 02-03-2014 10:55 AM

I just checked my past inventory, and I haven't had a Pelty horizontal in over ten years.

z28jd 02-03-2014 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldenAge50s (Post 1236069)
It lasted about 13 mins from the time it was viewable.

I didn't realize it was you, sorry. I don't blame you for the high price to start and it obviously wasn't too high. Congrats. If I was home, I'd sell the extra one I have right now. I might even have two of them extra, not sure and can't check now.

GoldenAge50s 02-03-2014 11:09 AM

The BEAUTY of Net54!

Thanks to Eric, who started this thread & to all of you who made posts w/ pertinent information, I just listed & sold a card for $145 that a week ago I almost put on the BST for maybe $40 or so.

THANK YOU to ALL MEMBERS who are always so generous w/ hobby information!

--and THANK YOU Leon for maintaining this site for ALL of us!

GoldenAge50s 02-03-2014 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by z28jd (Post 1236076)
I didn't realize it was you, sorry. I don't blame you for the high price to start and it obviously wasn't too high. Congrats. If I was home, I'd sell the extra one I have right now. I might even have two of them extra, not sure and can't check now.

Z--

Not one bit of offence was taken--no problem!

z28jd 02-03-2014 11:18 AM

I have a feeling we might see more on ebay with high BINs later today...

t206hound 02-03-2014 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by z28jd (Post 1236086)
I have a feeling we might see more on ebay with high BINs later today...

Damn! I don't have a single one to sell. Next time I start a thread I will make sure I have a supply to unload...

wolf441 02-03-2014 12:43 PM

There's your problem Erick!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by t206hound (Post 1236110)
Damn! I don't have a single one to sell. Next time I start a thread I will make sure I have a supply to unload...

You need to find a T206 that you have multiples of and then start a thread about how scarce that particular player is getting. I'd go with:

"Scary how few Harry McIntyre Brooklyn variations you see nowadays..."

Then muddy the waters with some random facts that don't have anything to do with scarcity, but confuse the issue:

"And when you consider that there's also the Brooklyn and Chicago version AND the fact that his last name was actually spelled McIntire.....well I know what card I'd never let go...." :D

Koufax32fan 02-04-2014 05:25 PM

I am one of those guys looking for a reasonably priced Pelty.....I wish I didn't have to work and could keep my eyes out for cards.

freakhappy 02-04-2014 05:49 PM

Way to be opportunistic, Fred! ;)


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GoldenAge50s 02-04-2014 05:51 PM

Mike--

It was like an invitation from EBay to "Please list somethng", so I did! Maybe I should have asked $175! :D

mrvster 02-04-2014 05:55 PM

hey guys....
 
iv seen a ton of them over the years:confused:

DerekMichael 02-04-2014 06:21 PM

I know of one guy who has close to 50 Pelty horizontal cards (though I should say I have not seen them in person). I sold him my Brown Hindu, which was his first of that combination. I miss that card.

Beautiful image, and a very good pitcher (on a pretty bad team).

Derek

z28jd 02-04-2014 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mrvster (Post 1236745)
iv seen a ton of them over the years:confused:

There are still none on ebay and the only one listed in the last few days was because of this thread. Compare that to 12 of the vertical pose of Pelty. If the last post is right, there might be someone buying them up and they are starting to dry up(in T206 terms of drying up that is)

DerekMichael 02-04-2014 08:46 PM

Again, the fact is that I have never seen them in person, so perhaps he was yanking my chain, but he seemed to be sincere, so who knows.

That was over a year ago, so if in fact he is telling the truth, which my gut tells me he is, he may have acquired many more examples since this time.

Who knows, to be honest?

z28jd 02-04-2014 09:14 PM

Let's see how high the price can go. If this sells, I feel sorry for people who don't have one. Is this someone from the board selling it?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-11-T206...item338a93f6e5

t206blogcom 02-04-2014 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by z28jd (Post 1236848)
Is this someone from the board selling it?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-11-T206...item338a93f6e5

Yup, I am. :D

I Only Smoke 4 the Cards 02-05-2014 09:09 AM

Its crazy.

z28jd 02-06-2014 07:44 AM

Some people may have missed this because it didn't last long

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-11-T206...item4acfeec173

ullmandds 02-06-2014 07:54 AM

I think the Pelty Horiz T206 is one of the most beautiful T206's in the set. That one that just sold is very nice...but $450...no way...I just got an early babe ruth exhibit for that money!!!!

Exhibitman 02-06-2014 09:19 AM

You're just a big hater, Pete :)

I Only Smoke 4 the Cards 02-07-2014 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1237488)
I think the Pelty Horiz T206 is one of the most beautiful T206's in the set. That one that just sold is very nice...but $450...no way...I just got an early babe ruth exhibit for that money!!!!

Agreed

ullmandds 02-07-2014 07:15 AM

Dammit Adam...you don't need to broadcast it!!!!:D

Pete Pyro 02-07-2014 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolf441 (Post 1236119)
You need to find a T206 that you have multiples of and then start a thread about how scarce that particular player is getting. I'd go with:

"Scary how few Harry McIntyre Brooklyn variations you see nowadays..."

Then muddy the waters with some random facts that don't have anything to do with scarcity, but confuse the issue:

"And when you consider that there's also the Brooklyn and Chicago version AND the fact that his last name was actually spelled McIntire.....well I know what card I'd never let go...." :D


Man, it worked!! I am regretting my listing of that exact card.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/141180671469

Pat R 02-07-2014 01:22 PM

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Not looking to part with this one but if I were it looks like it might be a good
time.


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