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CardMD 02-16-2017 02:55 PM

Carl Horner Question
 
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I love to group my cards into different categories (pose / set / player / team) and I make different PPT pages with them (have another thread about them).

Recently I was making a Carl Horner portrait page with all my cards with his photos and I wanted to put a picture of him on that page but I can't find any photos of him online. Anyone have a photo of Carl Horner? Here is the start to my Horner tribute page (Johnson photo is from Horner right? I think it is the same pose as the Ramly? ) Thanks.

BTW, great piece on Horner:
http://www.thenationalpastimemuseum....t-hit-and-more


Aaron

prewarsports 02-16-2017 04:59 PM

There is a photo of Horner and his wife on page 232 of the Henry Yee book on baseball photography.

Bicem 02-16-2017 05:09 PM

That Matty image is Benjamin Falk and not Horner.

Bicem 02-16-2017 05:14 PM

Also, has the Cobb portrait been definitively attributed to Horner?

MVSNYC 02-16-2017 07:21 PM

Hi Jeff- I've always understood the Cobb portrait to be a Horner...

A quick google search produced several mentions of it, here's one:

http://www.goodwinandco.com/mobile/l..._red_backgroun

Jobu 02-16-2017 07:47 PM

I have never seen the actual Horner photo used for Johnson's portrait. Does anyone here have a copy? It sold at Christie's years ago. I contacted them to try to get a scan but they sent me to another company that wanted a ton of money just to send me the listing.

These do not list the photographer, but here are some T206 with the photos used to make them:

http://t206resource.com/Photos%20Gallery.html

gnaz01 02-16-2017 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Jobu (Post 1631889)
I have never seen the actual Horner photo used for Johnson's portrait. Does anyone here have a copy? It sold at Christie's years ago. I contacted them to try to get a scan but they sent me to another company that wanted a ton of money just to send me the listing.

These do not list the photographer, but here are some T206 with the photos used to make them:

http://t206resource.com/Photos%20Gallery.html

I've looked for the Horner photo of WaJo for quite some time myself.......

Baseball Rarities 02-16-2017 08:12 PM

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Here is the Horner of Johnson that sold in the 1996 Christie's sale. It sold for $3,450 against a $1,000/$1,500 estimate. I was the frustrated underbidder. It has not changed hands since the sale and currently resides in one of the top collections in the country.

gnaz01 02-16-2017 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Baseball Rarities (Post 1631917)
Here is the Horner of Johnson that sold in the 1996 Christie's sale. It sold for $3,450 against a $1,000/$1,500 estimate. I was the frustrated underbidder.

Awesome Kevin. Is there a high res version somewhere out there??

Baseball Rarities 02-16-2017 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by gnaz01 (Post 1631918)
Awesome Kevin. Is there a high res version somewhere out there??

Not that I know of. All I have is the image from the catalog.

Jobu 02-16-2017 08:30 PM

Kevin! You are my hero! Thank you for posting that - what a great image. I had settled on looking at the M116.

Bicem 02-16-2017 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MVSNYC (Post 1631866)
Hi Jeff- I've always understood the Cobb portrait to be a Horner...

A quick google search produced several mentions of it, here's one:

http://www.goodwinandco.com/mobile/l..._red_backgroun

Anything more reliable than Goodwin?

edjs 02-16-2017 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Baseball Rarities (Post 1631917)
and currently resides in one of the top collections in the country.

That is not in my collection! Oh, sorry, I just noticed you said "one of the top," not "the" top. My bad. :D

MVSNYC 02-16-2017 09:08 PM

REA...

http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/...bb-collection/

Leland's...

https://www.pricerealized.com/#!/Ite...by-Carl-Horner

gnaz01 02-16-2017 09:10 PM

Weren't the W600's Horner Portraits???

https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball-c...a/7075-80061.s

Baseball Rarities 02-16-2017 09:21 PM

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Some. Not all.

Leon 02-17-2017 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Baseball Rarities (Post 1631981)
Some. Not all.

What great Matty cabinets!! Thanks for showing them, Kevin. Horner is still the only thing on my office walls. Just ask Al C. who got a firsthand look recently....

GKreindler 02-17-2017 06:49 AM

Bryan, out of curiosity, who was the company that Christie's sent you to? Any recollection as to what they were charging?

Baseball Rarities 02-17-2017 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1632024)
What great Matty cabinets!! Thanks for showing them, Kevin.

I wish that they were mine. Unfortunately, all I have are images that I have collected over the years. :)

Bicem 02-17-2017 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by MVSNYC (Post 1631970)

Would still like to see some definitive proof. Not saying it's not Horner, but auction descriptions aren't enough to convince me.

Bpm0014 02-17-2017 04:45 PM

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Here's my original Horner. Used to make the George Mullin T206 card.

gnaz01 02-17-2017 05:14 PM

I'll play
 
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Here's mine, apparently cut from the larger composite and used for his T206 card

Jobu 02-17-2017 05:57 PM

Greg, I just checked and "ton of money" was a bit of an exaggeration on my part. I had to give my country and my intended use for the image (personal). It was going to be $60 for a high res digital file. I am not sure whether that would have been just the photo or a scan of the listing. I didn't feel like spending $60 for a scan, so I passed. I was sent to:

Bridgeman Images
T: 212-828-1238 my
274 Madison Avenue, Suite 1604
New York, NY
bridgemanimages.com

The lot itself is still online, but it has no images:

http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/l...b-abb804d3bcab




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Originally Posted by GKreindler (Post 1632048)
Bryan, out of curiosity, who was the company that Christie's sent you to? Any recollection as to what they were charging?


Leon 02-20-2017 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Bpm0014 (Post 1632354)
Here's my original Horner. Used to make the George Mullin T206 card.

Nice photo. Is that a stand alone photo or was it taken from a larger piece? I don't think anyone has done portraits better than Horner.

Bpm0014 02-20-2017 12:00 PM

Thx man. Stand alone photo from 1906.

CardMD 02-21-2017 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by prewarsports (Post 1631794)
There is a photo of Horner and his wife on page 232 of the Henry Yee book on baseball photography.

Thank you!!

Quick check on amazon - $618 bucks wow. Anyone with a copy can scan a quick pick of Horner?

Aaron

pbspelly 02-23-2017 08:52 AM

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These Sullivans are all based on a Horner portrait, by the way. The first three are mine, but I don't own the E107 Breisch Williams. Somebody on the board actually owns an original Horner cabinet of him.

GKreindler 02-23-2017 09:42 AM

Thanks so much for the tip, Bryan. I just shot them an email.

prewarsports 02-23-2017 02:47 PM

I will post a pic of Horner for you from the book.

Jantz 02-23-2017 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by CardMD (Post 1633976)
Thank you!!

Quick check on amazon - $618 bucks wow. Anyone with a copy can scan a quick pick of Horner?

Aaron

Horner & wife, Tilly

pg.232

MVSNYC 02-23-2017 04:05 PM

That could be the first ever Selfie, as I'm sure he clicked something with his left hand to take the shot. :)

benchod 02-24-2017 07:16 PM

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Courtesy of B&L

http://www.net54baseball.com/attachm...1&d=1487988927

CardMD 02-24-2017 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jantz (Post 1634618)
Horner & wife, Tilly

pg.232

awesome. thanks!

Aaron

Den*nis O*Brien 02-25-2017 03:46 PM

Horner Cabinet Of OOM Paul Krueger and...
 
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....the controversy vs. Art Kruger that used to swirl around Paul's portrait on a T206. That is until our own Frank sorted it out. I actually have that missing corner piece.

Bicem 02-27-2017 12:37 PM

Awesome Sullivan Horner!


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