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quinnsryche 10-12-2018 02:37 PM

What's the BEST Book Written About Babe Ruth?
 
Looking to read a Ruth biography and would like some opinions on the best one. No sugar coated, unicorns and rainbows book. A real, honest biography, warts and all. Let's hear any and all opinions and why.
Thanks,
Tony

yanksfan09 10-12-2018 02:49 PM

I haven't read them all but The Big Bam, by Leigh Montville is very good, imo.

conor912 10-12-2018 02:55 PM

I really liked The House That Ruth Built.

roarfrom34 10-12-2018 03:16 PM

I see that Jane Leavy (who has written great books about Mantle & Koufax) has a new Ruth book out

earlywynnfan 10-12-2018 03:54 PM

I thought Robert Creamer's was good, even though it's old now.

clydepepper 10-12-2018 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by earlywynnfan (Post 1819282)
I thought Robert Creamer's was good, even though it's old now.


I thought it was great!

pclpads 10-12-2018 06:15 PM

Hard to go wrong with anything Robert Creamer wrote. It's more recent and I haven't gotten to it yet, but Montvilles' is reportedly well done also.

vintagebaseballcardguy 10-12-2018 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by earlywynnfan (Post 1819282)
I thought Robert Creamer's was good, even though it's old now.

+1000! Creamer's books are wonderful reads.

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mr2686 10-13-2018 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by vintagebaseballcardguy (Post 1819331)
+1000! Creamer's books are wonderful reads.

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+1001

darwinbulldog 10-13-2018 09:55 AM

One more vote for Creamer.

brian1961 10-13-2018 10:52 AM

Creamer's BABE is old as a Dom Perignom '53 is old! Mr. Creamer's biog is informative and entertaining. I well recall in the early 70s, perhaps just prior to its release, SPORTS ILLUSTRATED devoted three issues to bless readers with three segments from the book. They were enthralling; loved each one. After devouring them, I quickly bought the book.

There are other fine biographies of The Babe. It is my opinion that Robert Creamer's work stands at the best of the list.

--- Brian Powell

Jay Wolt 10-13-2018 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by darwinbulldog (Post 1819436)
One more vote for Creamer.

I'm also in the Robert Creamer camp.
I read it years ago, may have to dig it out & read it again

Tabe 10-13-2018 12:02 PM

Definitely "The Big Bam".

lumberjack 10-14-2018 12:36 PM

best ruth bio
 
They all have something to offer.
Creamer is a most graceful writer AND he had the advantage of talking to Ford Frick, Ernie Shore, Hoyt, Dugan and Shawkey, among others. Primary sources, that's what it's all about.
The Smelser book covers EVERYTHING (excuse me for shouting, again), which is perfect if you want this storehouse of knowledge.
Montville came long after Creamer, and may inject himself, subtilely, into the work. If you read Creamer and Montville, who didn't have access to the old guys, it wouldn't be a bad thing.
Jane Leavy. Her book is supposed to come out about now. There is a short interview with her in Smithsonian.com. This is good place to get her perspective. Her Mantle book is a treat, although I know casual fans who actually didn't want to read her 20 page chapter on Mantle's tape measure shot at Griffith Stadium in '53. I would read anything written by Jane Leavy.
There you go.
lumberjack

commishbob 10-14-2018 01:11 PM

I loved Creamer's book and kept my copy all these years which is a big endorsement since I usually don't.

I have Leavy's book on pre-order. Looking forward to it given how much I enjoyed her Koufax and Mantle books.

RTK 10-15-2018 11:17 AM

There's a new book out titled, "The Big Fella" by Jane Leavy. 656 pages and there's supposed to be some new material included.

Hot Springs Bathers 10-15-2018 01:24 PM

I second the Creamer book and add another really good one by Bill Jenkinson, THE YEAR BABE HIT 104 HOME RUNS. It traces Ruth's 1927 season from spring training through the end of season barnstorming. Smelser's book is also very good.

The new book by Jane Leavy is questionable to me, she tends to sensationalize things and does not do great research in my opinion. Just me opinion.

jerseygary 10-15-2018 01:54 PM

Speaking not only as a Babe Ruth fan, but someone who took a traveling exhibit from the Babe Ruth Museum around the country for a year back in '02, I put Creamer's book above all the one's I've read. Sure, it's from 1974, but as someone already wrote in this thread, Creamer got to interview the people who knew him and played with and against him. I think the book's subtitle, "The Legend Comes to Life" speaks for itself when comparing this against other biographies.

That said, Big Bam is quite good and I recommend that as well. I really thought the author did a spectacular job describing the last year of Babe's career and how he dealt with retirement better than anything else I've read. Also, his description of the pain and suffering he went through from the cancer was harrowing for me. But to really get the essence of the man, Creamer's book is for me the best.

I suggest reading the others after Creamer's book.

In addition to "Big Bam", check out Keene's "The Babe in Red Stockings" for a comprehensive telling of his time in Boston, "Young Babe Ruth" by Brother Gilbert who knew Ruth in St. Mary's, Kelley's "In the Shadow of the Babe" to hear actual players who faced the Babe tell their story and Barthel's "Babe Ruth is Coming to Your Town!: Post Season Barnstorming Games, 1914-1935" for his famous tours. There's more, but those are the one's that come to mind first.

stlcardsfan 10-16-2018 08:30 AM

Have only read the Creamer book but it was excellent.

brian1961 10-17-2018 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by jerseygary (Post 1819927)
Speaking not only as a Babe Ruth fan, but someone who took a traveling exhibit from the Babe Ruth Museum around the country for a year back in '02, I put Creamer's book above all the one's I've read. Sure, it's from 1974, but as someone already wrote in this thread, Creamer got to interview the people who knew him and played with and against him. I think the book's subtitle, "The Legend Comes to Life" speaks for itself when comparing this against other biographies.

That said, Big Bam is quite good and I recommend that as well. I really thought the author did a spectacular job describing the last year of Babe's career and how he dealt with retirement better than anything else I've read. Also, his description of the pain and suffering he went through from the cancer was harrowing for me. But to really get the essence of the man, Creamer's book is for me the best.

I suggest reading the others after Creamer's book.

In addition to "Big Bam", check out Keene's "The Babe in Red Stockings" for a comprehensive telling of his time in Boston, "Young Babe Ruth" by Brother Gilbert who knew Ruth in St. Mary's, Kelley's "In the Shadow of the Babe" to hear actual players who faced the Babe tell their story and Barthel's "Babe Ruth is Coming to Your Town!: Post Season Barnstorming Games, 1914-1935" for his famous tours. There's more, but those are the one's that come to mind first.

Gary brings up a succinct point in quoting Mr. Creamer's subtitle, "The Legend Comes to Life". That's precisely what Robert Creamer accomplishes; he allows us to go back in time and re-live Babe's life. Again, it's enthralling, and timeless with his use of the many key people he interviewed to bring fans a well-chronicled flashback of The Babe.

---Brian Powell

JollyElm 10-17-2018 03:54 PM

Let's hope Creamer knew what he was doing, because I just hit a BIN on ebay for $3.99.

Tabe 10-18-2018 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Hot Springs Bathers (Post 1819917)
The new book by Jane Leavy is questionable to me, she tends to sensationalize things and does not do great research in my opinion. Just me opinion.

I am very much not a fan of her work. Don't like her writing style at all.

brian1961 10-18-2018 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Hot Springs Bathers (Post 1819917)

The new book by Jane Leavy is questionable to me, she tends to sensationalize things and does not do great research in my opinion. Just me opinion.

I second what you feel about Jane Leavy. She relishes upsetting the apple cart. Hank Bauer warned her not to be messing with Mickey Mantle's legacy; she didn't listen, and drilled down on his 565-foot home run. The 4,206 fans that were there that afternoon of April 17, 1953 would drill her with their empty beer bottles.

I won't go in to what she suggested about Sandy Koufax.

Let's just say, LEAVE LEAVY'S WORK ABONE----DON'T BOTHER WITH IT, 'CAUSE IT'LL BOTHER YOU!!!!!

-----Brian Powell


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