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minibatsman 09-23-2015 05:11 PM

H&S or H&B
 
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many early bats are represented as 1911-15 H&B. bats. it is true F.W. Bradsby purchased all rights from J.F. Hillerich in 1911 but it took a court order in 1916 to have the H&B emblem put on the bats.

So any bat represented as a H&B bat prior to 1916 is in my opinion wrong.

yanks12025 09-23-2015 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by minibatsman (Post 1455374)
many early bats are represented as 1911-15 H&B. bats. it is true F.W. Bradsby purchased all rights from J.F. Hillerich in 1911 but it took a court order in 1916 to have the H&B emblem put on the bats.

So any bat represented as a H&B bat prior to 1916 is in my opinion wrong.


Why would H&B be wrong?? IT still is showing the bat as being a Hillerich And Bradsby.

minibatsman 09-23-2015 06:37 PM

H&B
 
I should have used a different photo.
all I meant was the statement not the actual photo.
I will post a better example.

minibatsman 09-24-2015 01:07 PM

1915 H&B bat dose not exist.
 
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This is a bad photo but my point is that almost every auction house will advertise these mini bats as a cir.1915 H&B Louisville slugger.
No such bat exists.
Records clearly state that the center brand was not changed until 1916.
I assume H&B decal bats were offered between 1916 - 1922?.
looking through the records of Palm Feckteler & co. I cant find much but it appears to me the bats probably were not very profitable?. If they were I would think Ruth would have had one.
Another opinion would be that they quit offering these bats prior to 1919?
I have been trying to put exact dates to these bats. but at this time all I can say is before or after 1916.

murphusa 09-24-2015 05:08 PM

Babe didn't have a decal bat at the time because he was a pitcher for most of it. In 1914 he played 4 games and only 46 in 1915

Auction houses get dates and other things wrong all the time

minibatsman 09-30-2015 12:16 PM

I agree. but he dosnt have one because they stopped making them in 1915? my opinion.


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