Gauging Interest for PSA piggybacking specials GRADES POPPED! Submitters be patient!
 

OK...I'm sure some of you are sick of PSA. They are slow. Take forever tog rade your cards. Yadda yadda. I still like them solely because of the resale value. That being said,.....

Special #1 - Cards valued over $100 but under $500. $17 per card. 10 card Minimum. I only have 2. I'm looking for 8 more. These are for higher valued cards, but not too high. I can give references.

Special #2 - Bulk $7 per card. No age limit. Must be standard or tall boys (no T3's). To get the special, we need 100 cards. I have 50 myself. So looking a few others.

That's it. Those that subbed with me before know the deal. If you can excuse all the crap going on, we might can make this work again. Let me know.

Hi, Bobby,

I think I have about 10 cards for the regular and 3 cards for the premium service (need to confirm this), but was just going to inquire about a grading submission. I'm in.

Thanks,
NJ

Tall boys again are what size limit?

Thanks

Hey Bobby,
I've got a bunch, not sure of the number, for the bulk special. I'm in.

Michael

You can't sub anything bigger than 3 1/2" x 5 1/ 6"

For those that have subbed with me before...the prices are what PSA charges plus $1 per card to cover shipping to and from California. Include a slip of paper that states

#1) What the card is and the value you assign to it. This is what PSA pays you back should they damage the card.

#2) You real name and your return shipping address

#3) Your Net54 handle....that is how I contact you during the process

#4) You CAN include payment if you like.....if not, you can paypal me upon receipt of the cards.

The cards should be in CS1's....if not, I can supply you with some, but they are about a .25 each....they are the safest way to transport cards.

Robert Williams
PO Box 61362
Raleigh, NC 27661-1362

Deadline is April 23rd. The bulk special obviously has no deadline, but the expensive card special does....so if that happens, that needs to be by the end of the month.

PS - Once the cards are complete, you are responsible for shipping back to you. The price varies, depending on the weight of the slabs, whether I can go First Class or it has to go Priority, and if you need extra insurance on the cards. A lot of people have subbed with me...it's pretty painless....

I will def be good for 10 plus cards at the $7 level this time around. Thanks for putting this together

I'm in.

Bobby, is the cutoff still 1956.

I'd like to join in this time.

I'll have at least 3 at the $17 level and 20+ at the $7 level.

Not for bulk...the bulk can be ANY years!! I'm tired of wating for PSA to have a POST 1956 special...the bulk sub eliminates us having to wait for one.

I've never done this before...but do autographs cards count in this special or just non signature cards?

They can be cards that came signed (think shiny upper deck stuff where they signed on the card)....however, if the card didn't NORMALLY come signed (think 1954 Hank Aaron rookie, 1952 Topps, etc), then they can't be sent in.

I would like to join in the submission Bobby. I have a few cards at the $17 level and 20-30 at the $7 level. Thanks for doing this!
Bill D

bulk
 

I'm good for 15-20 bulk.

Good...Jeff can vouch for me.....

I am curious since you answered this. How does someone send cards like the Aaron rookie signed then? Must be a $20 submission minimum cost?

Thank you

The Aaron rookie would have to fall under the PSA/DNA form...it's handled differently than just grading cards. They would grade the card (if desired) and then grade the autograph (if desired). Or just authenticate one only (or both)...make sense?

100%

I've done 3 submissions with Bobby and the first 2 completed with the third one still in process. Aside from PSA tardiness, all has been smooth and easy.....and Bobby does a great job managing these adventures.

Kudos to him, and no worries from me.

It does thank you. One more follow up. I see a few options. What is recommended? Auto and sig graded, one or other? Is only a 9 or 10 grade card a good option for both auto and card to grade, and authentic and auto grade for most other lower grade cards? I am sure each case is unique, but what is the standard.

There is no standard...it's all about personal preference. Some people swear by authenticating only....if it's newer stuff, I would probably just have the card authentic and a grade on the auto only. But it's 100% personal preference.

Thank you, sir. Quite helpful.

Bobby,

Sign me up for 16 cards at the $7.00 level.

I'll have them in the mail to you tomorrow.

Thanks!

Hey Bobby,

(BTW, let me jump on the Bobby train for a moment. I was a part of his bulk submission last fall and he was unbelievably organized and on top of everything. He answered all questions/concerns in a straightforward manner--in other words, no BS-- and the whole process went as smoothly as possible. He truly goes waaaaaaay out of his way to help all of us out and make these efforts successful. I big-time tip my hat to him.)

Can you give us a little statement about value with regards to the $17 special? As you said, it's about how much PSA would refund you if they damage your cards, but how far can that be stretched? Maybe try to sum it up as clearly as possible from your perspective? I am certain that there are quite a few people like me out there who are confused by the parameters of the deal. For instance, if someone has a Mantle card that would clearly be 'worth' more than $500 after it is graded, could they still submit it and write down the value as $499? I guess the real question here is, how far can one go in sort of trying to buck the system?

And a random question about two cards: Would a 1963 Fleer Checklist and a 1967 Topps #128, Ed Spiezio with part of his name missing on front, fit into the cheaper category, or would they have to be submitted at the $17 level? There always seems to be a lot of gray area with these types of things.

Thanks!!

I’ll do my best to get some cards together. Should be 20 or so on the bulk submission.

Darren...you can fudge a little....but do you REALLY want to be reimbursed "only" $500 if you have a $3,000 Mantle?? My best advice is to be realistic in what it is worth....For example..I'm submitting a Rose rookie. It might be worth $600....but DEFINITELY worth $500....I'm submitting it at $500. You can fudge, but I would only fudge what you are comfortable with. No $3,000 Mantles....a $600 or $700 is probably OK. As far as the last two, I'm not familiar with them, but I wouldn't think either one is worth more than $100, so they can go bulk.

Would this count for crossover?

Also curious. I have I think 2 SGCs and 2 BVGs that would need to be crossed over but are under 100 bucks each.

Guys...crossovers arent included.....if you want them to go, crack them out and send them in raw......

PS - I also just read the fine print, and the autograph cards ARE NOT allowed in the bulk special. Think pretty much standard cards. We don't want this sub taking 6 months like the last one due to so many oddball issues.

Pack pulled autograph cards are permitted under the bulk system, as long as they are from 1998-present. Pre-1998 and "in person" or "through the mail" autographed cards have to be submitted through PSA/DNA and are not eligible for bulk grading.
If you submit an auto card from Topps or UD or whatever, they will only grade the card, not both the card and auto.

Put me in for at least 20 at the bulk level.

Direct from PSA website...

BULK SERVICES **
Declared value is under $100 (per card). Excludes autograph dual service cards and supersized cards.


This tells me no autographed cards.

Let’s do it again
 

I’m in for about 20 at the bulk level and 5 at the high dollar level. I’ll start pulling now.

I have a handful of mechanical labeling errors. Can I have you send those in for free reholdering at the same time?

I'll be sending you 15-20 for the bulk order. Thanks again Bobby.

The Dual Service is PSA/DNA Dual Auto and Grade service. Card grading by PSA of pack-pulled manufacturer autos is permitted.

Guys...I kinda want to stick to only cards...I can call PSA and ask them though...fair enough?

This is a link about Mechanical Label errors...

https://forums.collectors.com/discus...uple-questions

I have 4 1911 Sporting Life M116 cards that I have wondered about for years. I bought them long before all the stuff on repros came out and have always wondered. Would theses be acceptable to add to your piggyback?

Yes...those are perfect..bear in mind, if they are REPROS, they will get charged for grading and will be returned with a sticker saying the reason why they were rejected.

I have a couple of questions

1) are 1955 Double Headers included

2) How long are we talking about waiting these days?

Thanks.

I'm not familiar with double headers. What is the size? They can't be bigger than 3 1/2 x 5 1/6.....if they are smaller than that, they can go.

As far as how long?? I don't work for PSA...I cant speak for them. For a frame of reference, the last sub took around 5 months. Hell, they are taking over a month just to log cards, and the clock doesn't start until they log them in. Patience is a must in dealing with these guys. They have gotten painstakingly slow.

Not for the bulk...it can be ANYTHING....as long as it is within size.

I just put mine in the mail to you.
Thanks!

1955 Topps Doubleheader’s fit in the Tallboy case. So they would be OK

Mailed mine today

Great, I would expect nothing less and this will allow me to know for sure. I will get them out to you in the AM but don't know what to do about value? Should I try and find a value (I don't have any current guides) to send along? I also am not sure what the price would be? I can Paypal you if you like now.

payPal upon receipt is preferred so I can keep up with what's what...when I get it in advance it's harder to keep up with....as for value, assign it what you think it is worth if it is real. Use Ebay completed listings as a guide (ie, PSA 3, SGC 3, etc)

Rog that.

I'm gonna go ahead and get started on the spreadsheet.....IF ANYONE IS SENDING ANY AUTOGRAPHED CARDS SPEAK NOW OR FOREVER HOLD YOUR PEACE!!

Never mind...I figured it out......they can only be post 1998, and there is no grading of the autograph

I'm in!
 

I have four cards standard size that I would love to have in this group. Point me to the mailing address and payment instructions.

Everything is on page #1 on this thread.

I’d love to get in on this. I have about 20. Will ship out Monday.

Guys....PLEASEEEEEEEEEEE try to make this easy on me. Vague forms with the cards ARE NOT the way to go. Unless it is 1952-1970, I am NOT the expert. T206's with all their variations, and ESPECIALLY the modern stuff where Jeter has 10,383 rookie card take too much work on my part. The plainer you make what you have, the easier everything is. It is also $7 per card PLUS $1.00 per card to cover shipping to and from California. I do not make one copper penny on shipping....it really does cost a quite a bit, especially the shipping back from PSA to me, as the slabs are quite heavy.

Bulk is a done deal, as we are over 200 cards bulk......the $100-$500 cards, we have 7 out of the 10 card minimum. We need THREE MORE big boys!!!

What is the cost of doing a 100-500$ submission?


Helps if I read! $17.

You've got 10 then.....I'll get you 3.

Sounds good Jeff...someone else has 3 coming too, so if you don't have any monsters, then don't scrape the barrell trying to find some.

Three premium and 20 regular sent today. PM sent.
Thanks Bobby

I have some I'd like to sub for bulk. Is it too late?

No....but the deadline drawing near.

Hey Bobby, are 1970/71 Topps Scratch Offs okay?

Edited to add: actually, it's a moot point to me now. My Aaron is a 1970 and not the more desirable 1971. Not going to send it.

Thanks, Bobby. Probably put me down for ~5 or so of the bulks and 1-2 high grade. I'll get my cards out tomorrow.

Oh, another question. I have a card that I think will grade out < $100, but if it hits a grade 10 it's a $600 card. Can I submit this for bulk?

In my experience you are probably alright. I’ve heard in some cases they may come back and charge you for the next level up but I’ve never seen it in any of the group submissions I’ve done.

Bobby will probably know better than me.

You have to be realistic...getting a '10' is NOT realistic...so treat is as a '9' or so...if it DOES come back a '10', I still don't think that is enough money to warrant an upcharge...usually they reserve that for the big boys (think Mantle rookie, Jordan rookie, etc) where a PSA 10 vs a 9 can be an increase of $20k or more.....

You'll be fine. I've had $1000+ (Post grade) cards go through bulk with no issue.

While we are talking about this, I have cards in BGS 9.5 holders I want to crack out swap over to PSA. They range in eBay value from 600-900, but if they do grade 10 probably increase a couple hundred each. Is that close enough to get in the under $500 category with PSA? Thanks for any knowledge.

Thanks so much for the advice, guys, and thanks Bobby for putting this together.

Probably, especially if they're worth significantly less than that raw. I won't say it's 100%, but twice I've had submissions under the bulk rate (less than $100) that came back as high grade low pops worth around $1000 each and didn't get asked to pay extra. Based on that, it isn't at all strict, and as Bobby mentioned, it's more for the big boys. People spend way too much time worrying about the valuation levels. It's almost entirely for insurance purposes.

Cards are in the mail. 9 total, 8x bulk, one premium. USPS priority from AZ, should be there early next week.

Yes.....I would think so.

Did you read the thread where the member bumped him Jim Brown rookie from an '8' to an '8.5'? They asked him to pay extra. Think of it like this....if they ask you to pay extra, it's akin to you winning the lottery. Gladly pay the extra. The cards you are describing though, I think you are OK.

Mailing this group today:
1952 Topps 6 Grady Hatton $20
1952 Topps 38 Wally Westlake $20
1952 Topps 55 Ray Boone $20
1952 Topps 74 Andy Hansen Black Back $25
1952 Topps 82 Duane Pillette $20
1952 Topps 99 Gene Woodling $20
1952 Topps 114 Willard Ramsdell $20
1952 Topps 217 George Stirnweiss $20
1952 Topps 282 Birdie Tebbetts $35
1961 Topps 44 AL Home Run Leaders $50
1961 Topps 228 Yankees Team $25
1961 Topps 307 World Series Game 2 Mantle Slams 2 Homers $75
1961 Topps Stamp Panels Bill Bruton Mickey Mantle $99
1962 Post Cereal 5 Mickey Mantle Hand Cut-Ad Back,Life Mag $50
1962 Post Cereal 5 Mickey Mantle Perforated-Ad BK,Life Mag $50
1963 Topps 2 AL Batting Leaders $30
1964 Topps 331 A.L. Bombers Maris/Cash/Mantle/Kaline $50
1965 Topps 5 A.L. RBI Leaders Robinson/Stuart/Mantle/Killebrew $30
1965 Topps 134 World Series Game 3 Mantle's Clutch HR $75
1965 O-Pee-Chee 134 World Series Game 3 Mantle's Clutch HR (x2) $99 each
1966 O-Pee-Chee 92 Yankees Team $50
1969 Topps Stamps Mickey Mantle $50
1962 Jell-O 5 Mickey Mantle Hand Cut ***MIN GRADE AUTHENTIC*** $99
1963 Jell-O 15 Mickey Mantle Hand Cut ***MIN GRADE AUTHENTIC*** $99
1935 J.A. Pattreiouex Sporting Events & Stars 19 R.T. (Bobby) Jones $75
1909 T51 Murad Cigarettes College Series College Series Bowdoin College $30
1910 T51 Murad Cigarettes College Series College Series Bowdoin College-2nd Edition $30
1909 T51 MURAD CIGARETTES COLLEGE SERIES 5 COLLEGE SERIES UNIVERSITY OF KANSAS $50
1964 Bazooka Panel Hand Cut Maloney/Cash/McCovey $50
1911 T201 MECCA DOUBLE FOLDERS SUMMERS/JENNINGS $50
1947-1966 EXHIBITS 1st NAME OUTLINE IN WHITE MICKEY MANTLE $50

My shipment should have been delivered!

You are logged in...thank you for your patience...I got several packages in.....look at it this way...it takes PSA a month to log them in....hopefully I can do them same day..lol

Bulk order....
 

Hi Bobby,

Just an FYI. I shipped cards today via USPS Priority Mail for the bulk submission. You should receive the package Wednesday/Thursday (check is enclosed). Thanks! Tim

I have nothing to be impatient about! This whole process so far has been super easy. From me reading this thread to you having cards in hand was just a few days. I'm glad I found this thread when I did. I've been meaning to submit cards for months now, but just haven't gotten off my behind to do it. This thread lit the fire, and I even got to throw in some cards for fun since the bulk price is so low :)

This thread is CLOSED...if you haven't mailed cards yet, please don't...Im worried I might not get them in time. I will be mailing them on the 27th and vacation is the following week.

This sub is getting out of hand...lol.....