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Huck 11-16-2019 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Tigerden (Post 1930075)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-VINTAG...d&LH_Auction=1

Who are the suckers paying high dollar for non period pennants? There is also a vintage "1946" Red Sox pennant currently for sale. I guess because these were produced many years ago, I think mid-late 70's, the vintage label isn't being deceptive. However claiming vintage and leaving out the date of manufacture its aim is to take advantage of the novice collector.

It is a problem for the novice (me) trying to determine what is of the period and what is a reproduction. I am just trying to put together some decent looking pennants for a ceiling project in the hobby room.

ooo-ribay 11-16-2019 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by biohazard (Post 1931733)
It is a problem for the novice (me) trying to determine what is of the period and what is a reproduction. I am just trying to put together some decent looking pennants for a ceiling project in the hobby room.

Lotta good info in the 53 pages of this thread! :p

Huck 11-16-2019 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ooo-ribay (Post 1931773)
Lotta good info in the 53 pages of this thread! :p

I have been collecting for a few decades and I never gave pennants a second thought until I became a member here. I am amazed at what has managed to survive the decades. The colors, variations is unreal. The information on this thread is invaluable but I need someone to look over my shoulder while I peruse pennants on ebay!

I am just interested in creating one or two circular patterns like this collector:

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Originally Posted by bigj7489 (Post 1643030)
Thanks again for all the great tips. I did pick up a little wire hanging display this weekend, which I haven't photographed. But I did do the wheel of pennants with some too...here's how that came out.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...9/IMG_4427.jpg


ooo-ribay 11-17-2019 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by biohazard (Post 1931779)
I have been collecting for a few decades and I never gave pennants a second thought until I became a member here. I am amazed at what has managed to survive the decades. The colors, variations is unreal. The information on this thread is invaluable but I need someone to look over my shoulder while I peruse pennants on ebay!

I am just interested in creating one or two circular patterns like this collector:

I did the "wheel" in our old house:

baseball tourist 11-17-2019 06:00 PM

JF Kennedy Cup
 
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Can’t be too many of these floating around. I had a jersey from a team from a Vancouver that played in this tourney, in’67, representing Canada.

https://www.protagonistsoccer.com/kickingback/jfk

“The cup competition made it’s debut in 1961, guaranteeing the participation of players from the entire west coast of the United States and President Kennedy lent his name to the trophy as a component of his physical fitness campaign. He had established a Council on Youth Fitness as early as 1956, but, once he was president, Kennedy retitled the program as The President’s Council on Physical Fitness. The Cup is unique, in that it is the only sporting award President Kennedy ever put his name to. The cup competition, known as the Pacific Coast International Championship, ran from1961 to 1967 and was largely dominated by the Mexican Select sides.

ooo-ribay 11-17-2019 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by biohazard (Post 1931779)
I have been collecting for a few decades and I never gave pennants a second thought until I became a member here. I am amazed at what has managed to survive the decades. The colors, variations is unreal. The information on this thread is invaluable but I need someone to look over my shoulder while I peruse pennants on ebay!

I am just interested in creating one or two circular patterns like this collector:

Hey, Dean - would you like to be sent "good deals" (via PM) on eBay? Every once in a while, I see Giants pennants I already own but think, "Damn, that's a good deal!" There's one such $30 pennant on there, right now. I'll bet other guys see such "deals" as well.

Huck 11-20-2019 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ooo-ribay (Post 1932126)
Hey, Dean - would you like to be sent "good deals" (via PM) on eBay? Every once in a while, I see Giants pennants I already own but think, "Damn, that's a good deal!" There's one such $30 pennant on there, right now. I'll bet other guys see such "deals" as well.

YES PLEASE!

Thank you.

Huck 11-20-2019 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ooo-ribay (Post 1932019)
I did the "wheel" in our old house:

That is cool.

ooo-ribay 11-20-2019 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by biohazard (Post 1932887)
YES PLEASE!

Thank you.

The $30 “deal” got snagged. I’ll keep you in mind. I’m sure I’ll see more.

Duluth Eskimo 11-24-2019 06:32 PM

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Here's a throwback photo for all the Boston fans. I'm sure these were all about $1 each in 1968.

ooo-ribay 11-24-2019 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Duluth Eskimo (Post 1933781)
Here's a throwback photo for all the Boston fans. I'm sure these were all about $1 each in 1968.

I love those kind of pics! What is the “New York Sportsmen(?)” pennant?

Duluth Eskimo 11-24-2019 07:41 PM

Might have been the Sportsman Show. I’ve seen many like that over the years.

Domer05 11-25-2019 01:31 AM

Twins Enterprises, Inc. (TEI) / '47
 
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Isn't that an awesome photo? I took the Fenway Park tour earlier this year and learned a bit more about it. The photo depicts the D'Angelo brothers; two twins that started a souvenir business in the streets outside Fenway Park in 1947. There they sold mostly pennants and other merch from a street cart. Eventually they opened a brick and mortar store along Jersey Street that stands today and functions as the Red Sox's team store.

Today the company has re-branded under the name "'47" and they offer all kinds of sportswear for MLB.

As best I can tell neither TEI nor '47 made their own pennants; they used an outside supplier that, based on this 1968 photo, appears to have been Trench.

Here's a contemporary photo of the store's interior showing the very same wall--with one or two less pennants for sale :rolleyes:

thetahat 11-25-2019 03:16 AM

Don’t see any Keezer pennants ... would have expected to see some, given the location ... I guess by then Keezer May have stopped making sports pennants.

pologrounds 11-26-2019 01:24 PM

Jackie Robinson All Stars Pennant
 
Happy Thanksgiving. I appreciate all the positive comments and feedback.

Has anybody ever seen another? Value Price?

Mike Mays

pologrounds 11-26-2019 01:43 PM

Jackie Robinson All Stars Pennant
 
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Jackie Robinson All Stars Pennant.
Value? Price? Rarity? Scarcity?

perezfan 11-26-2019 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by pologrounds (Post 1934195)
Jackie Robinson All Stars Pennant.
Value? Price? Rarity? Scarcity?

Very rare... one surfaces maybe every 5 years.

Pricing as follows...

Condition/Value:
Good $500
VG $900
EX $1,200
EXMT $1,500
NRMT $1,800

perezfan 11-26-2019 02:15 PM

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Which version do you have, or are you inquiring about? (see pics below).

The beaten up green one is the rarer of the two styles, and would likely sell for a bit more at auction (assuming the condition was similar for both). Both versions are 3/4 size.

Jersey City Giants 11-26-2019 02:25 PM

did anyone pick up that old Syracuse University Baseball Pennant a while back? If so I am interested if you ever want to move it.

perezfan 11-26-2019 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by pologrounds (Post 1934195)
Jackie Robinson All Stars Pennant.
Value? Price? Rarity? Scarcity?

OK.... I see you've edited your post to include a version I have personally never seen before. I like it better than the other more generic ones. Usually if I like something better, so does the general public... as evidenced by inevitably escalating auction prices.

So the one you pictured is probably worth a bit more than the prices I stated for the two others. I'd guess 15 - 20% higher... but you never know until it goes to auction. Hope this helps!

rlevy 11-27-2019 12:17 PM

pennant lot
 
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Recently purchased a group of pennants that included ones I will be looking to resell (haven't received them yet), and was hoping some of you could help me out with some info on dates and pricing ranges. I believe the Pittsburgh one is from the 40's, the rest from the 50's and 60's. The Redlegs one has a Frank Robinson auto, which I believe is real but has no authentication. I was told the Yankees photo pennant was from 1961. I believe they all have pinholes and are probably in vg-ex condition. For most of them, I couldn't find the exact ones in these colors on ebay.

Thanks for your assistance,
Rick

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perezfan 11-27-2019 01:57 PM

Pirates $75
Redlegs $125 (contingent upon auto being authentic)
Yankees with photo $125
Indians $40
Orioles $65
Yankees $40

Hope this helps!

Dodgerfan74 11-27-2019 02:01 PM

Beautiful Jackie Robinson pennants. Would love to have one for my Dodgers collection.

rlevy 11-27-2019 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by perezfan (Post 1934448)
Pirates $75
Redlegs $125 (contingent upon auto being authentic)
Yankees with photo $125
Indians $40
Orioles $65
Yankees $40

Hope this helps!

Very helpful, thanks Mark. I guess it makes sense for me to take it JSA when they make a local appearance. Do you think a sticker on the back for the auto would be a problem. I think LOA's (instead of the sticker) cost extra.

thanks again!

Rick

perezfan 11-27-2019 05:07 PM

A sticker on the back would not bother me personally. On the front of the pennant is a different story.

Probably worth a bit more than the $125 if you can provide the authentication.

Best of luck!

ooo-ribay 11-27-2019 06:37 PM

Who is the autograph?

Personally, I’m not a fan of autographs on pennants.

rlevy 11-27-2019 09:19 PM

The Redlegs pennant has Frank Robinson's signature on it. If you are going to have someone vintage from that team, he is probably right up there. I understand what you are saying about signatures on pennants, but I'm sure there are some collectors who may like them with signatures. I know I wouldn't mind having a 1963 Dodgers pennant signed by Koufax.

Rick

perezfan 11-28-2019 11:32 AM

Frank Robinson (recently deceased) is perhaps the best signature you could have on that early '60s Reds pennant. Signed pennants are not exactly my cup of tea either, but there are collectors out there for almost everything. He signed in the best spot possible... ink on felt is not a good look, and it looks much cleaner against the painted background.

This piece is lots cooler than a signed ball or photo, IMHO.

ooo-ribay 11-28-2019 12:08 PM

Rick and Mark - agree that it's a great sig and put in the best place.

Happy Thanksgiving!

rlevy 11-29-2019 12:52 PM

Thanks Rob and Mark, I always appreciate your input. Hope you have a great weekend.

Rick

Fballguy 11-30-2019 04:32 PM

Kyle...Per my message.

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Domer05 12-01-2019 12:20 AM

G.B. Feld Co.
 
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I've never actually seen this mark before; but, I figured there had to be a few out there in circulation. Great find, thanks for sharing.

Earlier this year I wrote a piece over on Pennant Fever covering WGN Flag Co. You can read it here: https://pennantfever.weebly.com/blog...ry/wgn-flag-co There, I attributed this particular graphic design to WGN's pennants. In that piece, and toward the end under "KEY PRODUCTS, " I discussed something that the current owner of WGN shared with me: sometime in the 1960s or 70s WGN used another pennant maker to supply their pennants. He identified that company as the G.B. Feld Co. of Chicago, IL. I suspect this SMU pennant was in fact manufactured by G.B. Feld; and subsequently distributed by WGN during this era.

That would explain why the artwork is the same as others bearing no such mark; and which I attribute to WGN. They probably just shared artwork.

WGN's owner also shared with me that many of the products his company offered were in fact manufactured by outside vendors. Their nodders, pinbacks, etc. were likely supplied to them by others. I asked him if that were true of their pennants, and he couldn't really answer, as the company had pretty much moved away from pennants by the time he was born. Nor could he identify the artist behind many of these great designs. That suggests to me that WGN may have always used an outside supplier for their pennants--not just in the 1970s.

If true, that maker likely would have been G.B. Feld. Mr. Newbould and Mr. Feld seemed like natural business partners. The two companies were located near each other on Chicago's south side.

This SMU pennant's kind of different from the WGN ones. It is monochrome; whereas WGN seems to have offered this design in the polychrome/Day-Glo look. It also has tassels; and WGN seems to have stopped using tassels by the 1950s. So who knows, WGN may have had nothing to do with this particular pennant. (Hence the Feld maker's mark.)

The G.B. Feld Co. dates back to at least 1948. It started out of the owner's home, located at 2137 E. 90th St. By the late 1950s they were operating out of 2256 E. 75th St. Here's a 1960 advertisement of theirs from The Billboard that clearly identifies them as a pennant maker....

ooo-ribay 12-01-2019 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Domer05 (Post 1935155)
I've never actually seen this mark before; but, I figured there had to be a few out there in circulation. Great find, thanks for sharing.

Earlier this year I wrote a piece over on Pennant Fever covering WGN Flag Co. You can read it here: https://pennantfever.weebly.com/blog...ry/wgn-flag-co There, I attributed this particular graphic design to WGN's pennants. In that piece, and toward the end under "KEY PRODUCTS, " I discussed something that the current owner of WGN shared with me: sometime in the 1960s or 70s WGN used another pennant maker to supply their pennants. He identified that company as the G.B. Feld Co. of Chicago, IL. I suspect this SMU pennant was in fact manufactured by G.B. Feld; and subsequently distributed by WGN during this era.

That would explain why the artwork is the same as others bearing no such mark; and which I attribute to WGN. They probably just shared artwork.

WGN's owner also shared with me that many of the products his company offered were in fact manufactured by outside vendors. Their nodders, pinbacks, etc. were likely supplied to them by others. I asked him if that were true of their pennants, and he couldn't really answer, as the company had pretty much moved away from pennants by the time he was born. Nor could he identify the artist behind many of these great designs. That suggests to me that WGN may have always used an outside supplier for their pennants--not just in the 1970s.

If true, that maker likely would have been G.B. Feld. Mr. Newbould and Mr. Feld seemed like natural business partners. The two companies were located near each other on Chicago's south side.

This SMU pennant's kind of different from the WGN ones. It is monochrome; whereas WGN seems to have offered this design in the polychrome/Day-Glo look. It also has tassels; and WGN seems to have stopped using tassels by the 1950s. So who knows, WGN may have had nothing to do with this particular pennant. (Hence the Feld maker's mark.)

The G.B. Feld Co. dates back to at least 1948. It started out of the owner's home, located at 2137 E. 90th St. By the late 1950s they were operating out of 2256 E. 75th St. Here's a 1960 advertisement of theirs from The Billboard that clearly identifies them as a pennant maker....

More great work, Columbo! :p

Duluth Eskimo 12-02-2019 02:37 PM

Rob,
Listened to your interview with Bob Swick on Gridrion Great’s. Good job representing pennants. We talk a lot about pennants in this thread, but there’s not a ton of information out there.

ooo-ribay 12-02-2019 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Duluth Eskimo (Post 1935572)
Rob,
Listened to your interview with Bob Swick on Gridrion Great’s. Good job representing pennants. We talk a lot about pennants in this thread, but there’s not a ton of information out there.

Is there a link to that? :confused:

Duluth Eskimo 12-02-2019 05:09 PM

https://www.blogtalkradio.com/gridir...ast-episode-49

bocca001 12-05-2019 06:30 PM

Houston Oilers
 
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This one just arrived tonight. Other than a few wrinkles from shipping (sigh), it is a stunner. It's pretty rare, and very, very red.

Fballguy 12-05-2019 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by bocca001 (Post 1936444)
This one just arrived tonight. Other than a few wrinkles from shipping (sigh), it is a stunner. It's pretty rare, and very, very red.

That's a beauty. Great condition.

PS...Guess who came in second. ;)

Fballguy 12-05-2019 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Duluth Eskimo (Post 1935572)
Rob,
Listened to your interview with Bob Swick on Gridrion Great’s. Good job representing pennants. We talk a lot about pennants in this thread, but there’s not a ton of information out there.

Thanks Jason...It was fun to talk to guys who love football as much as I do.

bocca001 12-05-2019 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Fballguy (Post 1936461)
That's a beauty. Great condition.

PS...Guess who came in second. ;)


Ha! Glad you weren't "that" into it because I would have paid a bit more :)

I'm having more luck with Oilers than 49ers.

Fballguy 12-05-2019 09:57 PM

The seller had an L.A. Chargers pennant as well and they were both ending within like 12 seconds of each other...so I was half in on both...and got neither.

I was thinking of you when it ended and hoped you had gotten it. Glad it went to a good home. Doesn't sting as much when you're happy for the guy who got it.

bocca001 12-05-2019 10:22 PM

Thanks, Rob.

perezfan 12-05-2019 11:41 PM

Great pickup, Marc...

I was watching that one closely as well, and am very happy for you. A really nice and unique Oilers Pennant!

thetahat 12-07-2019 04:48 PM

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Acquired a new color of the Emmet Kelly Dodgers pennant, sort of a reddish purple. This joins: violet, blue, black, red, and green. (No fading, these are distinct colors.) My question is ... are there others? I think I’ve seen orange somewhere.

MK 12-07-2019 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by thetahat (Post 1936944)
Acquired a new color of the Emmet Kelly Dodgers pennant, sort of a reddish purple. This joins: violet, blue, black, red, and green. (No fading, these are distinct colors.) My question is ... are there others? I think I’ve seen orange somewhere.

Obviously pennant manufacturers made pennants in various colors as they were marketed towards children who had different favorite colors. I just wonder for example, if these Dodger pennants were made mainly in blue, and less in the other colors? Or were there a similar number of all colors in a run?

bocca001 12-07-2019 06:44 PM

Can't say for the Dodgers, but, with SF Giants pennants, black pennant and orange spine seem to be the most common, followed by dark blue with yellow spine. Other colors (e.g., red, green, maroon) seem to be much less common.

bocca001 12-07-2019 06:50 PM

Astros
 
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Just picked up this funky 1970s(?) version of an Astros Astrodome pennant. This version, with the "thick" Houston is somewhat less common than many other versions.

Note the "VET" mark/stamp at the bottom. Figured I'd share to see what Kyle might know about it.

thetahat 12-07-2019 07:39 PM

Vet(erans) Stadium! I know this because as a youngster in the late 70s I bought a few of these at the ballpark (or my Dad did for me). There’s a Mets Mr. Met pennant with the same stamp, I’ll see if I can find a pic.

thetahat 12-07-2019 07:47 PM

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Here ya go

thetahat 12-07-2019 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by bocca001 (Post 1936969)
Can't say for the Dodgers, but, with SF Giants pennants, black pennant and orange spine seem to be the most common, followed by dark blue with yellow spine. Other colors (e.g., red, green, maroon) seem to be much less common.

This Giants pennant here is a non-faded turquoise ... actually brighter than it seems in the pic but it was taken in bad lighting


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