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Mikan99 01-11-2024 05:32 PM

WTB: Pre-war basketball cards
 
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Looking to buy any pre-war basketball cards. Anything from 1891 to 1939. US or international.

Even if not for sale, it would be great to see what everyone has.

Here are a few I already have.

Gorditadogg 01-11-2024 09:30 PM

I did not realize they played outside 90 years ago. That's neat to see.

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Michael B 01-11-2024 10:49 PM

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I did not realize they played outside 90 years ago. That's neat to see.

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At the 1936 Olympics the games were played at the tennisplätze, Reichssportfeld in the tennisstadion. The Mühlen Franck card (color one, bottom row) shows the first game of the quarterfinals played on August 12 at 5 p.m. Joe Fortenberry of the U.S. is making a layup He was the leading scorer in the game with 21 points. Jesús Marzan is #8 for the Philippines. He scored two points in the game. The U.S. team back then was picked by a tournament. The winning team Universal Pictures, had 7 players on the team. The runners up, Globe Oil Refiners, had 6. Ralph Bishop, a center from the University of Washington was chosen as the 14th player. The rules allowed each country to suit 7 players for each game. The U.S. alternated between squads mainly of the Universal team and the Globe team. Due to byes in the first and third rounds the U.S. only played 4 games. The gold medal match, played in the rain on a muddy court, saw them beat Canada 19-8. Fortenberry was the leading scorer and the team was 4 members of Globe, 2 from Universal and Ralph Bishop. The members from the gold medal game were also the only ones allowed to participate in the medal ceremony. Bill Wheatley stood on the podium to accept the gold medal while the team stood behind him.


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Joe Fortenberry

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Bill Wheatley

I acquired a 5 pound box of papers related to his basketball career from the son-in-law of Bill Wheatley. It included a lot of items on the Oakland Bittners and the original A.B.A.

Mikan99 01-12-2024 12:30 PM

Coming up to 133 years of basketball since James Naismith invented the game.

- Dec 1891: First game
- 1892: First public game
- 1893: First college game
- 1896: First professional game

For me, the first basketball card is the 1903 Tetlow College Girl.

Mikan99 01-12-2024 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael B (Post 2404064)
At the 1936 Olympics the games were played at the tennisplätze, Reichssportfeld in the tennisstadion. The Mühlen Franck card (color one, bottom row) shows the first game of the quarterfinals played on August 12 at 5 p.m. Joe Fortenberry of the U.S. is making a layup He was the leading scorer in the game with 21 points. Jesús Marzan is #8 for the Philippines. He scored two points in the game. The U.S. team back then was picked by a tournament.

I acquired a 5 pound box of papers related to his basketball career from the son-in-law of Bill Wheatley. It included a lot of items on the Oakland Bittners and the original A.B.A.

This is great info. I knew about Joe Fortenberry being the guy doing the layup but it's so cool to hear the rest.

JackieMoon 01-12-2024 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikan99 (Post 2404156)
This is great info. I knew about Joe Fortenberry being the guy doing the layup but it's so cool to hear the rest.

Totally agree, thank you Michael that was fascinating to read and much appreciated!!! I own the Muhlen Franck card and did not know that history...

Exhibitman 01-13-2024 07:27 AM

I got nuttin' but I think this thread is fun. Keep 'em coming!

Mikan99 01-13-2024 07:09 PM

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I got nuttin' but I think this thread is fun. Keep 'em coming!

You had an image of the 1925 Exhibit Champions. I had never seen it before you provided one. many thanks for this

Exhibitman 01-14-2024 01:31 PM

Right, forgot that one...

JackieMoon 01-16-2024 09:27 PM

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A few of my pre-war basketball cards:
  • 1935 Cioccolato Zaini (Italy)
  • 1930s Chocolat de l'Union (France)
  • 1932 La Veche Qui Rit (France)
  • 1936 Reemtsma/Sammelwerk Olympia (Germany)
  • 1924-25 Dominion Chocolate Athletic Stars (Canada)

Tripp Trapp 01-16-2024 10:45 PM

Hey Drew, I came across this eBay seller “Felix Street Postcards” who has several pre-war basketball real photo postcards for sale at auction and BIN. May be worth your time if you haven’t yet seen what the seller has! Best of luck with your endeavors!

TheGoatOfLife 01-20-2024 12:42 PM

Can all the raw items in the 1st post be graded?

Jewish-collector 01-20-2024 10:03 PM

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Nice stuff, Drew & JackieMoon !!! I'll see you both in Cleveland !!! I'll let you know if I'm coordinating a vintage basketball card & memorabilia dinner.

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Mikan99 01-22-2024 01:10 PM

Appreciate this, I'll check it out.

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Originally Posted by Tripp Trapp (Post 2405377)
Hey Drew, I came across this eBay seller “Felix Street Postcards” who has several pre-war basketball real photo postcards for sale at auction and BIN. May be worth your time if you haven’t yet seen what the seller has! Best of luck with your endeavors!


Mikan99 01-22-2024 01:11 PM

Yes, I've seen graded versions of them.

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Can all the raw items in the 1st post be graded?


Mikan99 01-22-2024 01:13 PM

Wow, some very cool cards here. feel free to post more.

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Originally Posted by JackieMoon (Post 2405368)
A few of my pre-war basketball cards:
  • 1935 Cioccolato Zaini (Italy)
  • 1930s Chocolat de l'Union (France)
  • 1932 La Veche Qui Rit (France)
  • 1936 Reemtsma/Sammelwerk Olympia (Germany)
  • 1924-25 Dominion Chocolate Athletic Stars (Canada)


Mikan99 01-22-2024 01:22 PM

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I just picked up a complete set of 1933 Jacques Les Sports (Belgium). The set has 24 cards. I'll post better pics once I have them in hand.

Hopefully I can safely remove them from the album.

Vintage Basketball Pat 01-22-2024 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikan99 (Post 2407009)
I just picked up a complete set of 1933 Jacques Les Sports (Belgium). The set has 24 cards. I'll post better pics once I have them in hand.

Hopefully I can safely remove them from the album.

Drew, there are at least two versions and maybe three of the Jacques Belgium set. I always thought it was 1935 and 1936, but I have heard 1933 too.At some point, we can discuss some cards and vintage items. I probably have something for saw or trade. I have a couple loose sets and one is an album.

Mikan99 01-22-2024 03:47 PM

I have seen two versions of this set. the backs of the both versions have identical copy and the front of card images are identical but are done in different styles (Chromograph vs illustration).

Keen to see a third version if it exists.

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Originally Posted by Vintage Basketball Pat (Post 2407048)
Drew, there are at least two versions and maybe three of the Jacques Belgium set. I always thought it was 1935 and 1936, but I have heard 1933 too. At some point, we can discuss some cards and vintage items. I probably have something for saw or trade. I have a couple loose sets and one is an album.


Mikan99 01-24-2024 07:18 PM

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Latest pick up - 1912 College Seal Flannel USC.
Has basketballs and hoops around the border.

Mikan99 02-08-2024 02:16 PM

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1933 Jacques Les Sports album - with 24 basketball cards.
Now I just need to work out how to get them unstuck from album :)


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