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parkplace33 12-27-2022 08:15 AM

Where is the third PSA 10 1952 Topps Mantle?
 
There are currently three PSA 10 1952 Topps Mantle. One is owned by Marshall Fogel. Another is owned by Ken Kendrick.

Anyone know who owns the third? I have heard rumors over the years, but nothing confirmed about this third psa 10 mantle.

Peter_Spaeth 12-27-2022 08:19 AM

That secret is guarded pretty zealously. Collector in NJ is what I have heard but that's it.

theshowandme 12-27-2022 08:54 AM

Is that the one submitted by a known card trimmer? Or was that Kendrick's?

Peter_Spaeth 12-27-2022 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by theshowandme (Post 2298020)
Is that the one submitted by a known card trimmer? Or was that Kendrick's?

Yes, it's that one.

Johnny630 12-27-2022 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by theshowandme (Post 2298020)
Is that the one submitted by a known card trimmer? Or was that Kendrick's?

I heard a rumor that he reviewed it multiply times when it was a 9 then it finally bummed to a 10.

Peter_Spaeth 12-27-2022 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnny630 (Post 2298026)
I heard a rumor that he reviewed it multiply times when it was a 9 then it finally bummed to a 10.

If it was graded during the Baker era he probably just screamed at him loud and long enough that Mike caved. The stuff that used to go on at shows...

Johnny630 12-27-2022 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2298029)
If it was graded during the Baker era he probably just screamed at him loud and long enough that Mike caved. The stuff that used to go on at shows...

Maybe the card deserves it...who knows. Either way whomever has it is sitting on a GOLD MINE.

Peter_Spaeth 12-27-2022 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnny630 (Post 2298032)
Maybe the card deserves it...who knows. Either way whomever has it is sitting on a GOLD MINE.

It may well, at least by the standards of the day.

Show bumps were very very common in the 90s. This was before half grades and you could certainly make a case that a lot of cards could go either way. I knew a guy who would go to Parsippany every month with a bunch of 86 Jordan 9s and he would always get a few bumped to 10s. PSA knew guys were flying in for the sole purpose of bumping cards and they made it worth their while.

One of my favorite stories happened at the old Fr. Washington show. A friend of mine is at his table on a slow Sunday afternoon. Steve Rocchi comes over and asks him if he needs anything. Just kidding, my friend points to a couple of very high powered cards in 7 and says that he could use 8s on them. Rocchi takes the cards, says I'll be back in half an hour, and brings them back in 8s.

Leon 12-27-2022 09:17 AM

Peter G, a San Antonio forum member since 2010 and someone I have chatted with many times, used to own the 3rd Mantle in a 10. He sold it a long time ago though.
I agree it would be a gold mine today. It would be like hitting the lottery.
.

Peter_Spaeth 12-27-2022 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 2298036)
Peter G, a San Antonio forum member since 2010 and someone I have chatted with many times, used to own the 3rd Mantle in a 10. He sold it a long time ago though.
I agree it would be a gold mine today. It would be like hitting the lottery.
.

Peter paid what was a stupefying price in the day but it would be chump change now. As I recall Superior auctioned it for him and that's where the trail goes cold.

parkplace33 12-27-2022 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2298038)
Peter paid what was a stupefying price in the day but it would be chump change now. As I recall Superior auctioned it for him and that's where the trail goes cold.

Peter, any idea what year it was auctioned?

Peter_Spaeth 12-27-2022 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by parkplace33 (Post 2298041)
Peter, any idea what year it was auctioned?

Around 2000/2001.

parkplace33 12-27-2022 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2298047)
Around 2000/2001.

Thanks. And it was a psa 10 back then? Wow.

Peter_Spaeth 12-27-2022 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by parkplace33 (Post 2298052)
Thanks. And it was a psa 10 back then? Wow.

Yes, it was. Presumably whoever bought it then still owns it.

Peter_Spaeth 12-27-2022 09:55 AM

How many 9s have we seen for sale? Rumor had it that one collector owned several of the 5 (or is it 6).

theshowandme 12-27-2022 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2298057)
How many 9s have we seen for sale? Rumor had it that one collector owned several of the 5 (or is it 6).

VCP lists 3 sales since 2006

$282,588 in 2006 at Memory Lane
$2,888,000 in 2018 at Heritage
$5,200,000 in 2021 via private sale as reported by PWCC

The $2.8 and $5.2 million card is the same example

Leon 12-27-2022 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by theshowandme (Post 2298059)
VCP lists 3 sales since 2006

$282,588 in 2006 at Memory Lane
$2,888,000 in 2018 at Heritage
$5,200,000 in 2021 via private sale as reported by PWCC

The $2.8 and $5.2 million card is the same example

And the person that last bought it, Rob G, is a very enthusiastic collector and forum member. He lives out of country, last we spoke. (which has only been a handful of times)
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irv 12-27-2022 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 2298065)
And the person that last bought it, Rob G, is a very enthusiastic collector and forum member. He lives out of country, last we spoke. (which has only been a handful of times)
.

Was he also not looking (posted here) for a 52 Topps Jackie Robinson PSA 9 (maybe higher?) to go with it?

Leon 12-27-2022 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by irv (Post 2298119)
Was he also not looking (posted here) for a 52 Topps Jackie Robinson PSA 9 (maybe higher?) to go with it?

Yes, correct.
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Jdoggs 11-11-2023 03:26 PM

Anyone seen pic of the 3rd 52 topps mantle psa 10?

chalupacollects 11-11-2023 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theshowandme (Post 2298059)
VCP lists 3 sales since 2006

$282,588 in 2006 at Memory Lane
$2,888,000 in 2018 at Heritage
$5,200,000 in 2021 via private sale as reported by PWCC

The $2.8 and $5.2 million card is the same example

There was an SGC 9.5 that a Jersey fella sold for #12.1 million fairly recently. Bought it for $50 k in 1991. Then the brothers from San Diego formerly of MA who had 5 of them had an 8.5 also. Not sure if that one was sold...

ruth-gehrig 11-30-2023 02:06 PM

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Going through some old papers I came across this flyer that was mailed to me in 1997 showing a guy by the name of Rob Slack purchasing a 1952 Topps Mantle PSA 10. Cannot see the serial number on the card.

parkplace33 11-30-2023 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ruth-gehrig (Post 2393037)
Going through some old papers I came across this flyer that was mailed to me in 1997 showing a guy by the name of Rob Slack purchasing a 1952 Topps Mantle PSA 10. Cannot see the serial number on the card.

Interesting, any know Rob Slack and if he still has it (if it is the third one)?

Peter_Spaeth 11-30-2023 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by parkplace33 (Post 2393040)
Interesting, any know Rob Slack and if he still has it (if it is the third one)?

As I posted, the mystery third one was auctioned in 2000 or 2001.

MVSNYC 11-30-2023 05:07 PM

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Imagine a time, way back, when a PSA 10 '52 Mantle didn't even get a full page :)

Peter_Spaeth 11-30-2023 06:34 PM

Only sold for 10K or so higher than a recent 9. Different world back then.

glynparson 12-01-2023 06:34 AM

In 2009/2010
 
It was owned by an individual who lived in either North jersey or the New York City area. I have his name and contact info somewhere. I think it’s in my first generation I phone. I was given it by the man himself when I was introduced to him by an owner of one of the grading services. I have not heard of it changing hands since then so I assume he still owns it. Thinking about it it could have been late 2008.

Peter_Spaeth 12-01-2023 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by glynparson (Post 2393174)
It was owned by an individual who lived in either North jersey or the New York City area. I have his name and contact info somewhere. I think it’s in my first generation I phone. I was given it by the man himself when I was introduced to him by an owner of one of the grading services. I have not heard of it changing hands since then so I assume he still owns it. Thinking about it it could have been late 2008.

I am pretty sure it is, or was, New Jersey. I suppose he could have moved it privately to someone equally off the grid, otherwise he still has it. Not a bad ROI if so. 275K then, now.....

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