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mfreema2 03-25-2024 08:54 PM

Very simiar to those - thanks for sharing.

mfreema2 03-25-2024 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by bocca001 (Post 2422334)
Wow! Tell the seller that he/she is welcome to come here and share!

He might want to... it could certainly help him.

mfreema2 03-26-2024 09:54 AM

Just to recap this since there was a lot of interest. The seller messaged me that due to a few concerns brought about by bidders and non-bidders in regard to the pennant's authenticity, including from me, he suggested having an appraisal of the pennant to which I agreed.

ooo-ribay 03-26-2024 10:19 AM

The batter looks “squattier” (more compressed) in the M&N repro.

perezfan 03-26-2024 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ooo-ribay (Post 2422424)
The batter looks “squattier” (more compressed) in the M&N repro.

As well as with the pennant in question...

And with the originals, the words “National Champions” arch higher above and further below the “Cincinnati Reds”. Which means it’s either a reproduction or that they used two separate silkscreens back in the day.

It would’ve been interesting to find out whether the graphics are painted/screened, or flocked (raised velvet).

The fact that it’s being evaluated by an AH is not the end all-be all. I have seen countless reproductions offered by the top/most respected auction houses, many of which were subsequently withdrawn. There are a handful of people here who’s opinion I value more than any AH. But I’m sure it will surface again somewhere if Mark doesn’t buy it.

ooo-ribay 03-26-2024 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by perezfan (Post 2422449)
As well as with the pennant in question...

And with the originals, the words “National Champions” arch higher above and further below the “Cincinnati Reds”. Which means it’s either a reproduction or that they used two separate silkscreens back in the day.

It would’ve been interesting to find out whether the graphics are painted/screened, or flocked (raised velvet).

The fact that it’s being evaluated by an AH is not the end all-be all. I have seen countless reproductions offered by the top/most respected auction houses, many of which were subsequently withdrawn. There are a handful of people here who’s opinion I value more than any AH. But I’m sure it will surface again somewhere if Mark doesn’t buy it.

Yikes! :eek:

I’m not sure about the “squattiness” of the batter, but I see what you’re saying about the more shallow arching. This is why my collection remains “low end.” :p

P.S. we never heard the final disposition of the 1918(?) Red Sox that we all felt was no good, did we?

mfreema2 03-26-2024 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by perezfan (Post 2422449)
As well as with the pennant in question...

And with the originals, the words “National Champions” arch higher above and further below the “Cincinnati Reds”. Which means it’s either a reproduction or that they used two separate silkscreens back in the day.

It would’ve been interesting to find out whether the graphics are painted/screened, or flocked (raised velvet).

The fact that it’s being evaluated by an AH is not the end all-be all. I have seen countless reproductions offered by the top/most respected auction houses, many of which were subsequently withdrawn. There are a handful of people here who’s opinion I value more than any AH. But I’m sure it will surface again somewhere if Mark doesn’t buy it.

That's a good point, Mark, about the AH not being definitive.

Bumpus Jones 03-27-2024 03:44 AM

Interesting topic of discussion. I think there's also the possibility of it being a pretty good period reproduction. What's everyone's thoughts on that?

ooo-ribay 03-27-2024 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Bumpus Jones (Post 2422612)
Interesting topic of discussion. I think there's also the possibility of it being a pretty good period reproduction. What's everyone's thoughts on that?

Meaning, like a 100 year old reproduction? I wasn’t aware anyone was doing that…

bocca001 03-27-2024 09:59 AM

The spine doesn't match the Mitchell and Ness. But the scrunched graphics do a bit. I guess the spine could have been replaced. I'm curious about the color of the cut tassels. I did also see the rare NY Titans pennant from the same seller, mentioned by Rob. I know that having the Titans pennant doesn't mean that this Reds is real, but it sounds like these are coming from a serious pennant collection.


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