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EYECOLLECTVINTAGE 05-24-2018 07:56 AM

Grading Template?
 
I was wondering if anyone uses a template of sorts that helps determine card size, and centering or if I should invent one lol

All jokes aside, is there something where you can scan the card and be able to tell the size of it so you can detect trimmed or factory trimmed cards?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

barrysloate 05-24-2018 08:04 AM

I used to measure my raw T206's by millimeters. If it was at least 67 mm. , it was fine. At 66 1/2, probably still original. But at 66 mm. or less, good chance it was trimmed.

A template is a good idea for most cards, but not all. If you built one, I think there might be some interest.

swarmee 05-24-2018 08:27 AM

There are ones for modern cards that get mentioned on blowout forums every once in a while. It's a clear plastic overlay that can measure the centering easily.

EYECOLLECTVINTAGE 05-24-2018 08:51 AM

you would not happen to know the name would you?

ullmandds 05-24-2018 09:00 AM

a digital caliper and your eyes would work well.

T205 GB 05-24-2018 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by EYECOLLECTVINTAGE (Post 1779956)
All jokes aside, is there something where you can scan the card and be able to tell the size of it so you can detect trimmed or factory trimmed cards?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Yes there actually is a program available that can do this via computer. It is not currently available to the market though:(

ullmandds 05-24-2018 09:31 AM

im a little surprised there is not an available program for this? you'd even think a scanner software could somehow do this?

My dental software at work has a ruler function to measure things on radiographs.

gregr2 05-24-2018 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1779982)
im a little surprised there is not an available program for this? you'd even think a scanner software could somehow do this?

My dental software at work has a ruler function to measure things on radiographs.

Agree, I would think scanner software would be able to do this pretty easily. Interesting thought.

EYECOLLECTVINTAGE 05-24-2018 10:12 AM

Hey I thought of it first COPYRIGHT (c) 2018 Stephen! Ok we are legally covered now.

drcy 05-24-2018 10:15 AM

I second your copyright so get 15% of all profits.

swarmee 05-24-2018 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by EYECOLLECTVINTAGE (Post 1779969)
you would not happen to know the name would you?

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showth...ht=blowoutbuzz

ruth_rookie 05-24-2018 10:37 AM

I didn’t think you can measure a card to determine if it’s been trimmed due to the old press-and-trim alteration made infamous back in the ‘80s and ‘90s. I may be mistaken, but I believe trimming can only be detected with a loupe.

barrysloate 05-24-2018 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ruth_rookie (Post 1780004)
I didn’t think you can measure a card to determine if it’s been trimmed due to the old press-and-trim alteration made infamous back in the ‘80s and ‘90s. I may be mistaken, but I believe trimming can only be detected with a loupe.

You very well may be correct, and of course it was possible that I missed some trimmed cards, but that's the way I did it way back when.

aaroncc 05-24-2018 11:34 AM

Alan Hager formerly ASA had one in the past.

T205 GB 05-24-2018 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by EYECOLLECTVINTAGE (Post 1779994)
Hey I thought of it first COPYRIGHT (c) 2018 Stephen! Ok we are legally covered now.

You are only about 10 years late. Sorry for the bad news

The AI/Biometrics used for the program is nothing special really. A few measurement tools, some digital fingerprinting, and other stuff like that. Kinda the same stuff Facebook and social media sites use. It is how it’s used that makes it proprietary.

vintagetoppsguy 05-24-2018 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ruth_rookie (Post 1780004)
I didn’t think you can measure a card to determine if it’s been trimmed due to the old press-and-trim alteration made infamous back in the ‘80s and ‘90s. I may be mistaken, but I believe trimming can only be detected with a loupe.

You are not mistaken. You are absolutely correct.

Also, there are cards that are naturally cut smaller, and there are cards that are naturally cut larger (that could be trimmed down to regular size), so you can't go by size alone.

vintagebaseballcardguy 05-24-2018 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy (Post 1780093)
You are not mistaken. You are absolutely correct.

Also, there are cards that are naturally cut smaller, and there are cards that are naturally cut larger (that could be trimmed down to regular size), so you can't go by size alone.

What about those coveted purple sticker cards?? ;)

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toledo_mudhen 05-24-2018 07:15 PM

I have used JRuler to measure centering values for many years

EYECOLLECTVINTAGE 05-24-2018 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by swarmee (Post 1779998)

Thanks a lot. BINGO!

T205 GB 05-24-2018 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by swarmee (Post 1779998)

That’s a pretty neat tool to have handy

Jenx34 05-25-2018 08:32 AM

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

This is what I use, when using old school tools like a ruler to mm. I try to measure to the nearest 1/4 mm, which could create some inaccuracy, but I typically find changing one or both by 1/4 or 1/2 mm doesn't make a big difference.

I'd love some kind of app that could detect size and centering, but until then, this has been very helpful to me. It has kept me from submitting certain cards or helped me decide whether to check "no qualifiers" when submitting.

Hope the link works


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