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Leon 11-20-2009 03:08 PM

1935 Circa Toledo Mud Hens photo card
 
Just picked this up off of a gentleman who always seems to have odd items. This is currently known as an uncataloged Circa 1935 Toledo Mud Hens Issue....Anyone, besides Frank W :), ever see any others?

http://luckeycards.com/phunc1935circatoledomudhens.jpg

Bob Lemke 11-20-2009 03:25 PM

He looked old even then
 
. . . and he was only 37 in 1935.

FrankWakefield 11-20-2009 03:28 PM

I've not seen one of those. And that's a nice card, there, Leon.

Leon 11-20-2009 04:04 PM

Thanks!!
 
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Originally Posted by FrankWakefield (Post 762896)
I've not seen one of those. And that's a nice card, there, Leon.

Thanks Frank. I really enjoy talking about esoteric cards, and pre-war cards, in general. I understand there is one more known from this "set".

Sometimes I think there should be a category we call "photo-cards" as I think that would be the correct one for "cards" like these. I can think of several others like this, similar to pictures, also. best regards

judsonhamlin 11-20-2009 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Lemke (Post 762895)
. . . and he was only 37 in 1935.

Living in Toledo can do that to a man

fkw 11-20-2009 07:05 PM

Maybe with the Mgr card now we can get closer to the date of issue....

I believe I came up with the year (ca.1935) by averaging out the years Powers played for them.

Here is the only one Ive seen beside Leon's.
Dont own it anymore...
http://centuryoldcards.com/images/mudhenspowers.jpg
1.5" by 2.1" real photo

fkw 11-20-2009 07:21 PM

Looks like the years will be closer to 1936-37. Haney started Managing in 1936 (some sources say 1935) and Powers last season with them was 1937.

teetwoohsix 11-20-2009 07:26 PM

Photo Cards
 
I found a 1966 Toledo Mud Hens Team Issue in the Beckett Almanac,says it's a 25 card set,cards measure approximately 3 3/16" by 5" and features borderless black-and-white player photos.The backs are blank and unnumbered.I know your card is a 1935,but the description of the 1966 seems similar,doesn't it?By the way Leon,nice find!!

BillyCoxDodgers3B 11-20-2009 09:12 PM

Would any of you speculate that this may have been some sort of team-issued "photo pack"? The lack of corporate sponsorship would be indicative of this.

Not being a card collector, it has never failed to surprise me that these types of "sets"/types are collected in the same fashion as actual cards (although to a lesser extent, I assume). If I had ever been a type collector, I would have immediately labelled such issues as decidedly being on the memorabilia end of the spectrum. Therefore, they would be immediately rendered inconsequential to the completion of my collection. I assume it's all a matter of personal preference?

fkw 11-20-2009 10:46 PM

Too small to be a photo pack (1.5" by 2.1" for the Powers card, Leons is slightly bigger).

I call these "Album Cards", similar to the many Cuban Issues of the 40's and also things like this...

http://centuryoldcards.com/images/1940seals.jpg
1940 UO-Unc. Associated Stations (gasoline station) SF Seals (1.75" by 2.4")
These were collected then glued into an album provided by the gas station

glenv 11-21-2009 09:45 AM

1 Attachment(s)
I have two. Picked up the Powers from Frank not too long ago. This one I've had for a while:

Attachment 9252

Leon 11-21-2009 12:20 PM

Jodi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JBirkholm (Post 762958)
Would any of you speculate that this may have been some sort of team-issued "photo pack"? The lack of corporate sponsorship would be indicative of this.

Not being a card collector, it has never failed to surprise me that these types of "sets"/types are collected in the same fashion as actual cards (although to a lesser extent, I assume). If I had ever been a type collector, I would have immediately labelled such issues as decidedly being on the memorabilia end of the spectrum. Therefore, they would be immediately rendered inconsequential to the completion of my collection. I assume it's all a matter of personal preference?

Hi Jodi
It is exactly like you said, all a matter of preference. I speak from the perspective of being a (mostly) type card collector. I also accept the fact that some people don't feel it's even a legitimate way to collect. That is certainly their prerogative to feel that way. I don't begrudge anyone their opinion as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else.

For me, I need to have something more than "an" ACC (American Card Catalog) focus, though that is 1 of the 2 foci :). If I didn't do it that way I would run out of stuff to collect, for the most part. How fun is that? So I have a strict ACC focus and I have a 2nd method that is unfocused, which is where this "photo-card" falls. BTW, I think the "what is a card" debate is always fascinating :eek:. Hope this helps explain where I am coming from. Happy Collecting.

edited to add - THANKS GLEN- for posting the scan of the other card. That's 3....and thanks FKW for chiming in, as always.


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