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Georj 09-24-2019 04:45 AM

1970 Topps baseball question
 
I see that the 1970 Topps baseball card packs had 3 different inserts in them, the posters, the scratch offs, and the booklets. Certainly, each pack didn't have 3 inserts in them, so does anyone which were inserted into which series? It's kind of confusing to me when they were inserted.

Cliff Bowman 09-24-2019 08:21 AM

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Looking at WorthPoint, nearly every 1970 Topps baseball wax pack has the generic 'EXTRA! INSERT IN EACH PACK!' but a couple have 'EXTRA! ALL-STAR POSTER IN EACH PACK!'. Some of the generic packs are graded with a specific series but I believe they did that by seeing which card was visible on the back. All of the graded generic packs that list a series are from the 4th, 5th, and 6th series. I have a guess that the packs with the 'ALL-STAR POSTER IN EACH PACK! are from the very early series but that is pure speculation on my part.

Cliff Bowman 09-24-2019 08:28 AM

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I found a graded first series 1970 Topps wax pack on the web that has the 'EXTRA! ALL-STAR POSTER IN EACH PACK!', so I would say it's safe to assume that the packs with the All-Star posters are very early series packs.

Cliff Bowman 09-24-2019 10:48 AM

There is a video on YouTube of a guy opening two 1970 Topps wax packs that contain cards in the high 300’s and 400’s (3rd-4th Series?), Pete Rose All Star, Bobby Bonds, Wille Davis, Johnny Callison, both have the scratch-off cards as the insert.

Cliff Bowman 09-24-2019 10:58 AM

Found another YouTube video of a 1970 Topps wax pack break that contains cards in the 500’s (5th-6th series?) Mike Paul, Cookie Rojas, this one contains the booklet insert.

rats60 09-24-2019 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman (Post 1919057)
There is a video on YouTube of a guy opening two 1970 Topps wax packs that contain cards in the high 300’s and 400’s (3rd-4th Series?), Pete Rose All Star, Bobby Bonds, Wille Davis, Johnny Callison, both have the scratch-off cards as the insert.

4th series

rats60 09-24-2019 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman (Post 1919059)
Found another YouTube video of a 1970 Topps wax pack break that contains cards in the 500’s (5th-6th series?) Mike Paul, Cookie Rojas, this one contains the booklet insert.

6th series. Posters were 1st and 2nd, scratch offs were 4th and 5th and booklets were 6th and 7th. I am not sure which were in the 3rd series.

Cliff Bowman 09-24-2019 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by rats60 (Post 1919128)
6th series. Posters were 1st and 2nd, scratch offs were 4th and 5th and booklets were 6th and 7th. I am not sure which were in the 3rd series.

Thanks for clarifying, guess someone needs to find a video of a 3rd series pack break to complete the puzzle.

toppcat 09-24-2019 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman (Post 1919137)
Thanks for clarifying, guess someone needs to find a video of a 3rd series pack break to complete the puzzle.

At a guess could be a blend of the posters and scratch-offs, hence the more generic insert wording. I collected this set heavily as a kid, the latter two inserts were more common than the posters as I recall, at least on Long Island. I suspect the scratch offs and story booklets were transitoned as well between 5th and 6th.

Interesting all three inserts sets are 24 subjects in length, it suggests one massive printing of each vs. how they distributed earlier, longer insert sets like the 1966 Ruboffs or the coins in '64 or '71.

rats60 09-24-2019 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by toppcat (Post 1919138)
At a guess could be a blend of the posters and scratch-offs, hence the more generic insert wording. I collected this set heavily as a kid, the latter two inserts were more common than the posters as I recall, at least on Long Island. I suspect the scratch offs and story booklets were transitoned as well between 5th and 6th.

Interesting all three inserts sets are 24 subjects in length, it suggests one massive printing of each vs. how they distributed earlier, longer insert sets like the 1966 Ruboffs or the coins in '64 or '71.

The story books were the most difficult insert for me in Southern California. Part of that is the 7th series cards were hard to find in our area. I definitely had more scratch offs than posters, but I had more 4th series cards than any other series. I feel that the scratch offs may have been in 3rd series, but am not sure. The inserts were definitely unique to series that I bought. There was no mixture.

toppcat 09-25-2019 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by rats60 (Post 1919140)
The story books were the most difficult insert for me in Southern California. Part of that is the 7th series cards were hard to find in our area. I definitely had more scratch offs than posters, but I had more 4th series cards than any other series. I feel that the scratch offs may have been in 3rd series, but am not sure. The inserts were definitely unique to series that I bought. There was no mixture.

I vividly remember opening 1970 high number packs Labor Day weekend 1970; they had just hit the stores. I remember because I scored the Bud Harrelson and I was a burgeoning Mets fan and also liked the shot; I know the timeframe because we were at an annual picnic held the Saturday of Labor Day Weekend and I got a couple of packs when we were going home.

No idea what I had for lunch today but I remember that......

This image is NOT that Bud Harrelson but shows why I remember the pose so well-it was unique at the time:


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