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Bicem 10-13-2014 02:11 PM

“the Wagner” of postcards
 
Which do you consider to be “the Wagner” of postcards? (excluding autographs and Negro League)

ullmandds 10-13-2014 02:13 PM

Interesting supposition! I do not seek out postcards...but I look forward to hearing some responses.

philliesphan 10-13-2014 02:19 PM

You'd perhaps get more responses if there were linked images for those of us who haven't seen all the examples referenced -- I can imagine 3-4 of them w/o a second thought, but not so much on the others

Bicem 10-13-2014 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by philliesphan (Post 1333477)
You'd perhaps get more responses if there were linked images for those of us who haven't seen all the examples referenced -- I can imagine 3-4 of them w/o a second thought, but not so much on the others

Make me work for it huh? Ok, images coming... :)

Sean1125 10-13-2014 02:22 PM

Rose Co Chase :rolleyes:

calvindog 10-13-2014 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean1125 (Post 1333479)
Rose Co Chase :rolleyes:

Damn.

Bicem 10-13-2014 02:43 PM

1907 Seamless Steel Tubes Ty Cobb
http://mar10.hugginsandscott.com/f10...b_postcard.jpg

1908 Rose Co. Ty Cobb
http://www.legendaryauctions.com/Ite...23781a_lg.jpeg

1908 Rose Co. Honus Wagner
http://www.legendaryauctions.com/Ite...a-copy_lg.jpeg

c1908 Greenville Joe Jackson
http://catalog.scpauctions.com/ItemI...1159-a_lg.jpeg

c1909 Weiser Wonder Walter Johnson
http://www.goodwinandco.com/ItemImag...ot15a_med.jpeg

1915 RPPC Boston Red Sox w/ Ruth
http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/...em_24544_1.jpg

JeremyW 10-13-2014 02:46 PM

Are you going for issued "sets" or do possibly unique RPPC count? I really like those early circa 1915-16 Ruths.

Econteachert205 10-13-2014 02:47 PM

That steel tube cobb is an incredible image. Intimidation!

Bicem 10-13-2014 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JeremyW (Post 1333491)
Are you going for issued "sets" or do possibly unique RPPC count? I really like those early circa 1915-16 Ruths.

Good question, was thinking sets or at least widely distributed, but whatever you feel qualifies.

JeremyW 10-13-2014 02:57 PM

I don't know how widely distributed that Greenville Jackson postcard was, but that thing is amazing.

Jacklitsch 10-13-2014 03:01 PM

My personal favorite is Joe D's 1903 PC of the New York Giants.

Unfortunately I couldn't find my scan.

ullmandds 10-13-2014 03:05 PM

yes...that joe jackson postcard is amazing! i would surmise that most listed postcards are known to exist in numbers barely approaching double digits at best.

And that the "honus wagner" of postcards will vary from pc collector to pc collector depending on what they need.

Bicem 10-13-2014 03:06 PM

That's a good one too Steve...

(not Joe's but another copy...)

http://www.legendaryauctions.com/Ite...10674a_lg.jpeg

GregMitch34 10-13-2014 03:08 PM

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The Babe, Shonen.

http://www.net54baseball.com/attachm...1&d=1413234525

Bicem 10-13-2014 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by GregMitch34 (Post 1333504)
The Babe, Shonen.

No.

prewarsports 10-13-2014 04:13 PM

I have long believed that Joe Jackson to be a fantasy piece and not authentic so not that one for sure!

ullmandds 10-13-2014 04:20 PM

if the jj is not real I want my vote back!!!!

sb1 10-13-2014 04:27 PM

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I'll vote with an image of one of the candidates and another toughie

e107collector 10-13-2014 04:51 PM

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My vote:

This Joe Jackson postcard.

Tony

Bored5000 10-13-2014 05:09 PM

I voted for the Ruth w/the Red Sox pstcard. It still kinda surprises me how "cheap" the 1912 Jim Thorpe postcards that predate his M101-5 are. I know they are not bigger than the Ruth postcard, but I think Thorpe at the 1912 Olympics is an iconic postcard.

CobbvLajoie1910 10-13-2014 05:18 PM

I'll be in the minority, but a Bregstone Waddell, without hesitation, makes my top-5.

JeremyW 10-13-2014 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1333530)
if the jj is not real I want my vote back!!!!

I hear that. Wish it was a real photo postcard.

clydepepper 10-13-2014 05:44 PM

Though I am very unfamiliar with this terrain, and probably influenced by my current reading choice, I had to go with 'The Weiser Wonder'!
(speaking of t-r-ains!)

Exhibitman 10-13-2014 05:53 PM

Why exclude the Negro Leagues? I understand excluding an autographed item but not the NL.

FWIW, I'd most like to own a 1915 Ruth RPPC.

You forgot the Duke and the Man of Steel:

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...ku_%20Duke.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...ising%20PC.jpg

atx840 10-13-2014 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean1125 (Post 1333479)
Rose Co Chase :rolleyes:


I'd be happy just to see a high res scan. :(

steve B 10-13-2014 06:37 PM

Maybe a bit outside the question in context, but this one paralells the Wagner in a few ways. Withdrawn from sale, probably due to poor printing quality, but the other story is that McKinleys widow didn't like it. Only one box of 500 was shipped by mistake, to a company that operated garbage barges for NYC, so an iffy link to 52Topps High numbers too. All were printed with an address and info for the tugboat operator to fill out. Unaddressed ones were actually specimens that got out. Not quite as expensive, but still pretty pricy for a plain postcard. (Sorry for the long link)

Steve B

https://www.siegelauctions.com/lot_g...calledfrom=lkp

CobbvLajoie1910 10-13-2014 06:39 PM

Holy $hit, that Duke PC is awesome, Adam.

Thank you for sharing.

Jeffrompa 10-13-2014 07:34 PM

My favorite. ...
 
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But not my card

Bicem 10-13-2014 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by e107collector (Post 1333544)
My vote:

This Joe Jackson postcard.

Tony

That's a great one too Tony! Interesting responses so far.

Bicem 10-13-2014 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exhibitman (Post 1333568)
Why exclude the Negro Leagues?

selfish reasons, I don't collect them.

h2oya311 10-13-2014 08:07 PM

Anyone have a scan of the 1908 Rose Company Tris Speaker? I've never seen one. That might top my list if you are only looking for ACC designated postcards.

Otherwise, I'd concur with the vote for the 1907 Team PC w/ Joe Jax!

chipperhank44 10-13-2014 08:10 PM

For me there is nothing that even comes close to the seamless steel tubes Cobb (my personal holy grail), but the 1910 Sepia Cobb/Wagner is easily my #2 and worth mentioning in this discussion.

bobbvc 10-13-2014 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by chipperhank44 (Post 1333609)
For me there is nothing that even comes close to the seamless steel tubes Cobb (my personal holy grail), but the 1910 Sepia Cobb/Wagner is easily my #2 and worth mentioning in this discussion.

Or Novelty Cutlery Cobb- Wagner.

chipperhank44 10-13-2014 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbvc (Post 1333613)
Or Novelty Cutlery Cobb- Wagner.

Yes! The image is amazing, both sets did it justice for sure!

Baseball Rarities 10-13-2014 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by h2oya311 (Post 1333607)
Anyone have a scan of the 1908 Rose Company Tris Speaker? I've never seen one. That might top my list if you are only looking for ACC designated postcards.

Otherwise, I'd concur with the vote for the 1907 Team PC w/ Joe Jax!

Even though Tris Speaker has been on the checklist for years, I have never known anyone to have ever seen one. I believe that I have an image of every other HOFer except for him.

Then again, up until recently, I had only seen one Rose Walter Johnson in the last 25 year (Ron Mechine's, which seems to have mysteriously disappeared) and now two more have popped up in the last two months! Hopefully the same will happen with Speaker. :)

slidekellyslide 10-13-2014 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by prewarsports (Post 1333529)
I have long believed that Joe Jackson to be a fantasy piece and not authentic so not that one for sure!

?? It is postmarked from Greenville, SC in 1909...what makes you think this is a fantasy piece?

Ladder7 10-14-2014 03:58 AM

Duke!

EvilKing00 10-14-2014 05:22 AM

im not familiar with any post cards, but after looking at the scans, id take the Jackson. If its real - and not a FP

bcbgcbrcb 10-14-2014 05:43 AM

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Like the idea for this thread, Jeff. Here's an old favorite from my collection, wish I still had it (especially given what it sold for at auction a few years ago, could get 4X that amount today)............

bcbgcbrcb 10-14-2014 05:46 AM

If I recall correctly, the Jackson postcard came from a newspaper/magazine clipping or baseball guide.

GregMitch34 10-14-2014 06:24 AM

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Hans Lobert.

http://www.net54baseball.com/attachm...1&d=1413289426

Bicem 10-14-2014 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregMitch34 (Post 1333661)
Hans Lobert.

No.

Leon 10-14-2014 07:52 AM

Cobb w/bat, smiling in uniform......
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bicem (Post 1333674)
No.

agree.....nice postcard but not in the top 1000 in the hobby, to me. This one is neat, I am biased, but probably too rare for it's own good and probably still wouldn't make the cut. It's pretty much the only MLB postcard I own as I don't collect them (you are welcome pc collectors).

http://luckeycards.com/ppcunc1912cobbwithbat2.jpg

calvindog 10-14-2014 08:18 AM

I'm not a big fan of the Greenville Jackson as it looks like it was cut out of a newspaper; also I can't rank a RPPC as a top one as they're just too varied and don't have the history of a regular postcard. That being said I WISH there was such a thing as a Wagner-type PC, especially since I own two of the ones on the list.

As someone who owns many rare Cobb PCs, I think my favorite two (which encompasses looks and rarity) are the Rose PC and this one:

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3015/...616db3e7_o.jpg

ullmandds 10-14-2014 08:49 AM

Jeff I love that one. I love cards that show players teeth!

FourStrikes 10-14-2014 08:56 AM

This.
 
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terjung 10-14-2014 09:24 AM

That Free Press PC of Cobb is beautiful, Jeff. Great image on that.

glenv 10-14-2014 09:26 AM

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I like the Pebble Beach Joe Di Maggio - like that it's signed (as all Pebble Beach PCs are). Picture from Old Cardboard website:

Attachment 164368

Hankphenom 10-14-2014 09:48 AM

Interesting, and great to see these wonderful postcards, but I don't get the analogy. IMO, there's not such thing as a "Wagner of postcards," since the circumstances of issue and collecting between T-206s and postcards are so different. To me it's like saying, "What's the Wagner of pennants, or pins, etc." There is no Wagner of those, or of postcards, either. But maybe this is just the contrarian in me.


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