1947 BOND BREAD and its "imposters"....show us your cards ?
 

Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>You are assuming something from my above scan of the 4 cards. I did not say that the BB/Movie Star<br> combo cards were issued at the same time as the SQUARE card issue (that Adam W. identified as the <br>&quot;Sports Star Subjects&quot; issue).<br>Judging from the consistent discoloration of these perforated dual-cards, I'd say they were printed and <br>issued in the 1950's.<br><br>This brings up another mystery regarding the SQUARE cards that we haven't discussed yet. And, that<br>is the &quot;warehouse find&quot; of 1000's of these cards in the early 1980's by David Festberg.<br><br>I think the cards in this find are REPRINTS that may never have been in circulation. Until, of course, <br>David started selling them.<br>The cardboard that these cards are printed on is not as thick as the original cards. And, the printing<br>quality and contrast of these cards is inferior to the original cards.<br><br><br>TED Z<br><br>

1947 BOND BREAD and its "imposters"....show us your cards ?
 

Posted By: <b>Steve</b><p>As always great info. Thanks Ted.<br><br>Steve

1947 BOND BREAD and its "imposters"....show us your cards ?
 

Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>JEFF....two good &quot;Q's&quot;......<br><br>First, it's been 62 years since I was pulling these cards out of the Bond Bread loaves....so, I don't<br> recall if there was one card or two in the package. I'll ask my sister, who seems to remember such <br>trivia better than I.<br><br>2nd....Tip Top bread was actually the favorite in our house back in the 1940's and '50's. However,<br> the bread we bought from the stores in the Hillside, NJ area never had the Tip Top cards in them.<br> So, I can't give you an answer on this one. Perhaps, we will get lucky, and have some one on this<br>forum chime in with the issue date of the Tip Top bread cards.<br><br>Thanks,<br><br>TED Z<br><br>

1947 BOND BREAD and its "imposters"....show us your cards ?
 

Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>I haven't forgotten you, guy. The 1947 BOND BREAD Jackie Robinson set of 13 cards was indeed issued in 1947.<br>These cards are the exact same size (2 1/4 x 3 1/2) as the general 1947 BOND BREAD set of 48 cards. However,<br>it's my understanding that the JRobby cards were never inserted in the BOND BREAD packages....therefore, there<br>was not a need to bevel their corners....so they remained SQUARE.<br><br>They were promotional cards honoring JRobby that were issued by Bond Bread. I have heard that they were most <br>likely distributed in the greater NYC area. We never saw them in our neighborhood stores in NJ.<br><br>TED Z<br><br>

1947 BOND BREAD and its "imposters"....show us your cards ?
 

Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>It's amazing what shows up on this forum. Your George Raft card is very cool. Raft was a &quot;cool&quot; villain <br>in the movies back when I was a kid. There is no doubt that this card was packaged in a BOND BREAD <br>loaf. Otherwise, why would it have rounded corners ? It certainly has the picture quality of the 48 cards <br>in the 1947 Homogenized BOND BREAD set.<br>However, I would guess that Bond Bread was inserting movie stars in their bread packages subsequent<br> to the BB (and Boxing) cards of 1947. Furthermore, including movie stars in with the Bond bread may've<br>been a regional thing. I have never seen (or heard) of Bond Bread packaging of movie star cards before<br> you mentioned your Raft card. And, I've compared experiences collecting these Bond Bread cards with<br> other hobbyists who collected these cards as kids (in Boston, Cleveland, St louis, etc.) and no one ever<br> brought up any other cards than the known 48 in the '47 set.<br>You have a really &quot;rare bird&quot; in your George Raft card. <br><br><br>TED Z<br><br> <br>

1947 BOND BREAD and its "imposters"....show us your cards ?
 

Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Very neat, thanks for sharing it with us. The original 1947 Bond Bread cards were available in the bread loaves in the Sring of '47<br> thru sometime in 1948. After then they were premiums in several grocery products such as your display.<br><br><br>TED Z<br><br>

1947 BOND BREAD and its "imposters"....show us your cards ?
 

Posted By: <b>boxingcardman</b><p>I rescued George from a junk box on a dealer's table because of his association with the Jewish mob. Raft ran with a tough crowd as a kid but happened to be talented enough to have a different route out of poverty. He was a friend of several major crime figures, including Bugsy Siegel and Meyer Lansky. <br><br>Sic Gorgiamus Allos Subjectatos Nunc

1947 BOND BREAD and its "imposters"....show us your cards ?
 

Posted By: <b>David M</b><p>Ted, I was one of those that bought a &quot;set&quot; from David Festberg back in the 1980's. I believe it is unlikely that anyone reprinted these cards and then stuck them in a warehouse. It seems more likely that they were leftovers from the &quot;Sports Star Subjects&quot; issue that Mr. Festberg then found stored. You said the cards David sold were inferior to the originals in print quality and contrast but how do they compare to the &quot;Sports Star Subjects&quot; cards. Are they the same? I guess that leaves us with the other question. Where do we think the combo cards came from? <br><br><br>

1947 BOND BREAD and its "imposters"....show us your cards ?
 

Posted By: <b>Bob C</b><p><br>Good information Ted. Here is a Primo Carnera card I bought from Larry Fritsch a few years ago along with some others. They were indeed advertised as 1947 Bond Bread.<br>Primo way past his time here...any excuse to wear tights I guess <img src="/images/happy.gif" height="14" width="14" alt="happy.gif"><br><br><img src="http://www.rbcraik.com/ebay/primobond.jpg" alt="[linked image]">

1947 BOND BREAD and its "imposters"....show us your cards ?
 

Posted By: <b>boxingcardman</b><p>In 1946, a few years after he finally retired as a fighter, Primo Carnera became a wrestler and wrestled until retiring in 1961. So did Joe Louis for a time when he needed the money. If you see the movie &quot;Requiem For A Heavyweight&quot; where Anthony Quinn's broken-down fighter ends up being a pro wrestler afterwards, that's based on Carnera. <br><br>Sic Gorgiamus Allos Subjectatos Nunc