PWCC at the National?
 

Did they have the balls to show up? No pun intended.

Business as usual, probably.

Pwcc
 

Betsy is on the dealers list for tables 965 970 972 1064.

Conserved assets and tenets. Maybe the Wizard of Os(z)wego himself will be there.

I'm missing the pun.

Emanating from the Emerald Shores of Lake Oswego, lies the great establishment known as PWCC. And their fearless leader, Brent is the "Wizard of Ozwego".

Check out Dorothy's last words in the link below!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWyCCJ6B2WE

I'd dismantle every Mantle
Recolor every Play Ball
Trim each and every Leaf

With the cards I'm conservin'
I'd be even more unnervin'
If I only had some bleach.

Move over, Burkett.

I smell a musical!

Copying my own prior

Trim and recolor and bleach, OH MY

Kate wants to know if your puns have dropped.

THE CAST:

Wizard of Ozwego:
Brent Huigens

Wicked Witch of the West:
Betsy Huigens

The Castle Guards:
PSA's Graders

The Flying Monkeys:
The Stakeholders

The Cowardly Lion:
Gary Moser

The Tin Man:
Steve Sloan (if he only had a heart)

The Scarecrow:
Joe Orlando (if he only had a brain)

Dorothy:
All of us hoping this is all just a bad dream!

But what does that have to do with balls?

I guess it just referenced Baseballs in general, being it's the National... Richard will have to clarify.

Sorry- I thought you were asking about the Wizard of Ozwego moniker. :o

Instant Classic

Given attendance numbers at the National, do most attendees care or know what PWCC has been up to? Does the National care since their stake is to sell as many tables at the highest rate possible? The people that care the most are likely in the minority.

tables wee sold out for this upcoming national before the last national even ended last year...long before this scandal broke.

Wizards aside.

I still get a thrill up my leg when listening to Betsy’s rendition of “Hopelessly Devoted To You” in new show “Fleece” introducing Gary Moser actually singing “You’re The One That I Want” and “I Can’t Give You Anything But Bleach, Babe” to a Goudey baseball card,:eek: with Julie Andrews in a vocal cameo appearance singing “Trim Trimmany”.

I also understand that PSA is countering with their own stage production directed by J. Orlando featuring Harrison Ford in “The Graders of the Lost Ark” based on a true story of greed and lust.

The word on the street though should be disappointing for Brent and Joe though as neither has been nominated for a lifetime achievement award.:(

you're too funny, Frank!!!!! You forgot about soaked, pressed and ironed out corners at a drivein?"

“Singing In The Rain” was low hanging fruit, but “Soak Gets In Their Eyes” was considered.;)

Balls = Baseballs

So are they there at the national? PWCC was a no show at the Long Beach coin expo because of the scandal. I sure wouldn't be nice walking by their booths.

question is...will PWCC be at the national(I believe they will) and if so...will their "representation" be sitting there with them????

I don't believe it has actually started yet.

Ahhhh… great question!

They might need him there, to combat and overcome the dreaded "Foot in Mouth" disease. ;)

how has the national been so far?

I fear that those who are hopelessly devoted to Brent will be in the majority.

The scanner on entry to the Donald E. Stephens Convention Center is 83% effective in detecting and preventing entry of pitchforks as well

But wouldn't it be cool if PWCC had one of those vacuum tube things so that you could deposit your assets directly into the Vault from Chicago?

Wow. Of course I'll need a fee if you decide to do it.;)

Quiet lol

Restoration school dropout.

whistling all the way...

Percentage of people at the National who care about only the money 80%
Percentage of people at the National who care about only the cards and people/old friends 20%

The hobby went to hell 25 years ago it’s been a crooked industry every since

Weird that 0% of people at a gathering of card collectors care about both cards and money.

New math, Glenn. The folks you are speaking of are in the second 100%.

Figures lie and liars figure. If you don’t believe me, just keep checking those Pop Reports.:D

Ha!

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Somewhere under the exacto
Cuts are fine
There's a grade that I dream of
Card is now moserized





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When I went I cared about the cards, money, and meeting up with friends, fellow collectors, and hobby acquaintances. I'm quite certain I wasn't the only one. The same would have held true had I been able to attend this year.

+1 These are pretty much the only reasons I am going. I don't expect to find anything to buy but I will look and try. Actually, the cards are the least reason I am going. It's about seeing old friends and hanging out and having some fun in the hobby like I used to. :)
As for PWCC being there, they might be. Not a big deal to me. I hope this whole debacle gets taken care of eventually. There does need to be some punitive punishment somewhere imo. Time to show a new pick up from the BST....and duly noted in this month's pickups too.

Agree with leon 100pct ,,well said

Mark and Frank, you guys are HILARIOUS! LOL!

Let's not forget the Wolverine musical they are going to be doing starring Gary Moser.

I will use my claaawwwwsssss ... to remove this card's flaaawwwwsssss ♪ ♪ ♫ I will make the corrrneers so sharppppp ... yes, so sharp ♪ ♪ This card will steaaallll your heart ♪ ♪

Brent has been on the floor both days so far at the PWCC booth.

I spoke to several dealers, no one mentioned the scandal. Though some guys on the flight was mentioning it on the modern side.

SO PSA was right...its only a small minority of complainers.

Someone posted a picture on Twitter of their corporate booth. It looks a little sparse if you ask me.

Check out the vault. I was expecting something else.

It was a rather “out of the way” location, and was not at all crowded by any means.

The booth was indeed sparse, but most of the cards on display in the “vault” were killers (Black Swamp, etc.). Seemed like everything was kept very low key, with no signs whatsoever of complaints, protest or turmoil. You’d never suspect any scandal or legal matters were brewing.

Step right up and get some investment advice from the Wizard.

I really wish I was there. I'd have hundreds of reprints of the Washington post article that would get conveniently left all over the place. Not just the convention floor, but hotels, restaurants etc.

That's a terrible looking setup, but I give her credit for showing up with all that's going on.

What a clown. Sloan and Orlando? Are you joking?
They are on the NASDAQ !! Whats wrong with you?

The whole Wizard of Oz cast is fine but leave PSA out
of it they simply assess the card given to them they
can not know what it looked like yesterday !!

Like Brent, Mosher and whoever else could even make it
worthwhile$$ for PSA to be in on the scheme? PSA
could get ALL of Mosher's profits and it would be a
drop in the bucket for them?
Why dont Casinos use loaded dice or a stacked deck?
Because they dont need to the game is already
fixed you silly gooses!

Back to my Keystone Light :>

Pretty hard hitting amateur journalism!

Thanks for sharing. They should get several people filming and asking questions at the same time. Overwhelm them with questions.

Might also be a good idea to inform some of the customers that are milling around there about what is happening in our hobby.

Hilarious! Thanks for sharing Peter. Lets hear it for the PWCC Facilities Manager! My new favorite PWCC employee!

Yes Hi, I'd like to ask you a question about the carpet & easel?

You would think with all the people screaming bloody murder on the forums that the PWCC booth was going to be like the Israel-Palestine border. Instead, I watch the video and the booth looks quieter than my local library. Go figure.

People are a lot different in person than they are on a message board.

No, you've had enough already.

That is a big part of it. I complain about the scum in the hobby all the time but am the nicest person you ever want to meet in person. I will still complain about it but i argue with no one.:)

Then the first person to start any open complaining will be escorted out of the building.

Then the elephant in the room. Almost every dealer there and every dealer that sells PSA slabs wants it to go away as fast as possible.

Visible security can certainly deter people.

Do you think he has a job when he gets back to work on Monday morning?

I can only assume he received a very stern and terse speaking to on Thursday night. I wonder if he is even still at the show or was he given tickets tot he Cubs game and wont be seen until its time to tear down the booth.

One word comes to mind watching that video: AWKWARD.

Also, I'd love to see the submission history of those cards in the "Vault".

Is that Deputy Barney Phif guarding the cards?

I'm assuming this policy of not being recorded is on advice of counsel as, prior to Jeff's involvement, they ran their mouths quite a bit.

Depending on if Chicago is a one or two party consent place you could just record them without them knowing.:D

I would agree Jeffrey more than likely told them to STFU you morons.

I'd also like to see the same type of video journalism at the PSA Booth and see watch kind of rhetoric spews out of mouths of the principals at PSA. My guess is that they will, like PWCC, scamper for cover at the sight of a video camera.

By the way, does PSA still host Registry Luncheons at the National? When they did years back, there was a Q & A time. I'd be very surprised if PSA would give the public that same opportunity today.

Since he was basically saying that before they paid him I'll go out on a limb and say I'm 99% certain lol.

I think it's two party. Isn't the building also private property?

What a place to have reached in life, where you can't even talk for fear of making your legal predicament worse. Was it worth it, Brent?

I'm guessing the answer is "Yup."

Just ask the writer of the article about his showplace home in 1859 Oregon Magazine

"The façade of Betsy and Brent Huigens’...

...is as traditional as it gets"

https://1859oregonmagazine.com/live/...sign-portland/

pretty pathetic performance betsy...and brent sure looked like a weasel. I suppose ripping people off in the hobby is all they know how to do...so they really have no choice at this time but to continue doing so...in the hopes they don't do jail time.

Riches is nothing in the face of the Lord, for He can see into the heart.

Faulkner, As I Lay Dying.

As far as I am aware, I'm pretty sure it is 2 party as well. The ownership I think would be more interesting since I believe it is owned by the village of Rosemont.

Did you happen to see the comment at the end of the article - priceless...

For us agnostics that's not much of a threat...

For the atheists it's even less!

Was almost worth the article just so someone could post the comment!

You don't need to be a believer to embrace the value judgment.

Exactly why I started this thread. Would take alot of guts to show up at the national. They are lucky there isn't hundreds of people asking questions.

That was classic. I was there Tuesday thru Thursday and they were not there prior to opening. It seemed like an uncomfortable environment, but they were both there Thursday as shown. Plenty of rubes stopping by to admire the “vault”.

It was this character that Huigens and her husband sought to preserve when they bought the house in early 2016. While previous homeowners had made changes to the interior, including a kitchen remodel and painting the den’s woodwork white, the Huigens weren’t interested in making further alterations that might prove out-of-sync. Instead, they restored all of the old wooden windows and retooled glitchy door hardware. When it came time to decorate, the couple needed an interior designer who could help them express their personal style and ensure functionality for their family, while still respecting the house’s traditional shell."

Think they have the same stance on altering cards.

I didn't comment on that article when I first read it, but I thought exactly the same "same stance on altering cards" as you did.

Here is the comment - HILARIOUS!

Hi Mike
 

C'mon Mike - Keystone light? That is like buying 1990 Topps when there are much better cards/beer out there. :p

Rick