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Edwolf1963 09-19-2015 08:00 AM

Goodwin Auctions Wins
 
Hadn't seen if anyone started this yet? Curious your take on Goodwin's latest auction - was anyone surprised on the T206 Plank @ $87K? Any others surprise you - high or low??

Did you have any nice pick-ups? Show them off!

I had a number of cards in for consignment, overall I was quite happy with the return. Really surprised on the Aaron an Clemente rookies as well as several others. Thank you to all who bid on the cards I had in, I hope you will be happy with them!

Ed

Peter_Spaeth 09-19-2015 08:18 AM

Some of the prices are incomprehensible to me. E.g. a 53T Mantle 7, not terribly well centered, at 19K and a Clemente rookie SGC 80, badly centered, at 5K. (A month ago one sold for 2K.)

Leon 09-19-2015 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1453964)
Some of the prices are incomprehensible to me. E.g. a 53T Mantle 7, not terribly well centered, at 19K and a Clemente rookie SGC 80, badly centered, at 5K. (A month ago one sold for 2K.)

The 50s RC's are like T206 rare backs 3-4 yrs ago......

Peter_Spaeth 09-19-2015 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1453977)
The 50s RC's are like T206 rare backs 3-4 yrs ago......

Yes, but a card that is easy to find does not go up 2.5 times in value in a month. This is clearly an aberration of some sort.

Iron Horse 09-19-2015 09:10 AM

Would have to agree with Peter. There are a number of nice 55 Clemente rookies on eBay that aren't priced that high. The Mantle is nutz!:D

DeanH3 09-19-2015 10:15 AM

My winning. I have always wanted a '47 Jackie and decided to bite the bullet

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m...ps5euvih6b.jpg

Leon 09-19-2015 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DeanH3 (Post 1454007)
My winning. I have always wanted a '47 Jackie and decided to bite the bullet

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m...ps5euvih6b.jpg

nice!!

Bicem 09-19-2015 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1453964)
E.g. a 53T Mantle 7, not terribly well centered, at 19K

Gross.

pokerplyr80 09-19-2015 11:44 AM

Yea a few of those seem very high. Other than that Mantle and Clemente, the PSA 9 Ryan stands out to me. I thought that card was in the 15-20k range. A 1958 Mantle BVG 8 doesn't seem like a 4k card either. Both almost doubled all time VCP highest reported sales.

7k for a PSA 4.5 51 Mantle also seems high. 5s have been selling for less and 6s not much more.

bobbyw8469 09-19-2015 01:01 PM

Odd pricing....that is for sure. It is like someone doesn't eat shrimp so they go to the fanciest restaurant and pay $100 for fried shrimp. Little do they know the can go to Red Lobster, and for $16 get all you can eat! :eek:

gnaz01 09-19-2015 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 1454051)
Odd pricing....that is for sure. It is like someone doesn't eat shrimp so they go to the fanciest restaurant and pay $100 for fried shrimp. Little do they know the can go to Red Lobster, and for $16 get all you can eat! :eek:

I would suspect that some of the people that buy these are not board members here or they would certainly know better............. :confused:

Peter_Spaeth 09-19-2015 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by gnaz01 (Post 1454061)
I would suspect that some of the people that buy these are not board members here or they would certainly know better............. :confused:

If these auctions are legit and actually get paid, then either these are people who are essentially clueless about the sportscard market, or to whom these sums are trivial. Or both.

bobbyw8469 09-19-2015 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1454064)
If these auctions are legit and actually get paid, then either these are people who are essentially clueless about the sportscard market, or to whom these sums are trivial. Or both.


Well..one thing is certain. The card market is certainly heating up.

Peter_Spaeth 09-19-2015 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 1454065)
Well..one thing is certain. The card market is certainly heating up.

Is it though? It seems to me it's mostly just a few rookie cards for the most part.

Stonepony 09-19-2015 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 1454065)
Well..one thing is certain. The card market is certainly heating up.

.....at least for the cards i want

pokerplyr80 09-19-2015 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1454067)
Is it though? It seems to me it's mostly just a few rookie cards for the most part.

Key HOF rookies and high grade Mantles seem to be going crazy. I haven't noticed the trend in anything else. I would say it's people fighting for the PSA registry but that doesn't explain the SGC 80 Clemente.

glchen 09-19-2015 04:30 PM

I think the herd mentality often feeds upon itself. When collectors hear that an area is hot, and that area has always been on their want list, they will sometimes try to buy that card out of fear that it may continue to go up beyond their price range. So they want to get a card into their collection while they can (they believe). I think this is what is happening to the Mantles and the key HOF rookies. The high end can sometimes drag the mid-range grades up also to a degree because of this.

Peter_Spaeth 09-19-2015 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by pokerplyr80 (Post 1454108)
Key HOF rookies and high grade Mantles seem to be going crazy. I haven't noticed the trend in anything else. I would say it's people fighting for the PSA registry but that doesn't explain the SGC 80 Clemente.

I truly don't get the Mantle. Almost 20K for a 7 that's off top to bottom? For that price you could get all four Goudey Ruths in a nice midgrade.

pokerplyr80 09-19-2015 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1454240)
I truly don't get the Mantle. Almost 20K for a 7 that's off top to bottom? For that price you could get all four Goudey Ruths in a nice midgrade.

Yea that doesn't make sense. I remember the dead centered 7 that sold a couple months ago on Heritage for 10k which seemed high but made sense because of the eye appeal. To double that, which as far as I know was an all time record for the card, seems hard to believe to say the least.

PSA 8s were selling for under 20k just a few months ago.

ullmandds 09-19-2015 08:26 PM

seemingly unbelievable hammer prices are nothing new for goodwin auctions. some claim his mailing list is extraordinary...I just don't get it.

Peter_Spaeth 09-19-2015 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1454250)
seemingly unbelievable hammer prices are nothing new for goodwin auctions. some claim his mailing list is extraordinary...I just don't get it.

I've heard that rumor too and I think it's urban legend. Guys living off the grid in caves who ONLY bid in Goodwin? Come on.

pokerplyr80 09-19-2015 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1454254)
I've heard that rumor too and I think it's urban legend. Guys living off the grid in caves who ONLY bid in Goodwin? Come on.

Rumor or not these sales have me wondering if I should use them for a couple of cards I want to sell.

ullmandds 09-19-2015 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1454254)
I've heard that rumor too and I think it's urban legend. Guys living off the grid in caves who ONLY bid in Goodwin? Come on.

Agreed...so that leaves the Probstein phenomenon.

Rob D. 09-20-2015 10:48 AM

I hope this ended up in the Net54 family:

http://www.goodwinandco.com/T206_Swe...-LOT30988.aspx

http://www.goodwinandco.com/ItemImag...54-5a_med.jpeg

calvindog 09-20-2015 10:56 AM

Sick card. I'm surprised it hasn't shown up yet in the Sept pickups.

CobbvLajoie1910 09-20-2015 11:01 AM

Crazy sick card.

Peter_Spaeth 09-20-2015 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1454270)
Agreed...so that leaves the Probstein phenomenon.

I think there are probably many explanations depending on the card.
1. Shill bidding.
2. Sale isn't real, didn't go through.
3. Huge premium for centering.
4. Your friendly neighborhood card doctor thinks it can be worked on and improved.
5. Bidder with lots of money and big ego who just wants to win it.
6. Stupidity.

T206Collector 09-20-2015 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob D. (Post 1454373)

Not with me! :(

... But these prices have me tempted to pull a Leon! :eek:


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