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brianp-beme 08-11-2019 01:26 PM

Fun things added to blank back cards
 
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I have always appreciated a little extra value to be added to my cards, especially those cards that were issued with blank backs. I find them both interesting and a peek into the mindset of kids (and sometimes later adults) of the time the cards were issued. This thread will have ten posts of scans and commentary from the Zeenut series, a great blank canvas for scrawling upon, but feel free to post anything else you might have from blank back card sets (or even ones with printing that have something added to them).

To start with, here are some cards that were used for scholarly purposes, practicing number writing, adding up test scores(?...if so, an 'A' student), and a cheat sheet of conversions.

Brian

brianp-beme 08-11-2019 01:27 PM

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Here are a couple that have transfers on them, including one of James Cagney, that Buck Barker needed to work around while writing down research on the player on front.

brianp-beme 08-11-2019 01:27 PM

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Here are some that represent the world of artistic endeavor and graphic design. Please stop staring at the palm tree in the background of the card on the upper left, a little WW1 aviator design, make your own deck of cards, the six fingered hand of horror(!), and a little love to create a happy ending (please note that the human heart has been shot through with an arrow, which of course is considered hazardous to health and well-being).

brianp-beme 08-11-2019 01:28 PM

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Stamps added for a variety of purposes...directing a player where to sign card (card is unsigned), business addresses, receipts, theater admission, stamp your name multiple times, and a rabbit with a carrot for good measure.

brianp-beme 08-11-2019 01:28 PM

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Here are some examples of cards utilized for informational purposes...typed (they ran this one through the typewriter in typical destroy your Zeenut fashion), yearly stats, updates on careers, line-ups, a Buck Barker of a tough to nail down player. My favorites are the blue ink stat recap of a very good player who needed all his great achievements smooshed into illegibility, and the "Good Outfielder" who was fired for drinking his favorite XXX beverage.

brianp-beme 08-11-2019 01:28 PM

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Which leads us to cards extolling the virtues of the ballplayer, especially one kid who perhaps was considering a future in sports writing, with descriptive phrases such as "a darn fast man", "a good pitcher an(d) sticker and hitter", and a "flossy twirler", predictions about an up and comer, and even a fair admission that he just doesn't remember Jacobs very well. His competitor only could produce "make things look too easy". Better step it up a notch if you want that daily column, kid.

brianp-beme 08-11-2019 01:28 PM

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On the flip side are the negative criticism and flat out insults. I know I would feel pretty low if I were identified as a mediocre pitcher, or a punk relief pitcher, or as a "Man(ager) Pitcher of Seattle, not much of either", or called out as a big fool (could have been either for player or new owner of the card). My favorite insult of all time is the one with "Meusel is nothing but an old flat lunch". And nothing could be worse than being called an old flat lunch.

brianp-beme 08-11-2019 01:29 PM

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The world is not such a bad place, as witnessed on the back of these Zeenuts. Cole was a lucky recipient of the top left card, as evidenced by "Dear Cole, here are your pictur(e)s". "This Zee-nut was got by Harold Hague and I am trying to see how far it will go" is perhaps a pay-it-forward scheme, "To be given away to anybody who wants it" sounds pretty generous, and Bob Brabo utilized his last name to coin a new word..."Bob Brabo...TRAB you for any other pictore".

brianp-beme 08-11-2019 01:29 PM

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Which leads to Zeenut 'Shooting', which evidently was a contest like pitching pennies to get closest to the wall. Besides tearing off corners, rolling up the card, waxing it etc. to make a card more likely a winner, it didn't hurt to try to influence the outcome with a few choice words, such as "Good Luck", and perhaps even add a little bonus "kiss me' to keep the other boys cards away, if they wanted to avoid cooties. Evidently Wesley "Shooter" Brown was a champion Zeenut Shooter, but he failed to record his victories for posterity. And I am assuming Eddie Miller was also proclaiming his Shooting skills with the misspelled "I am danger's (dangerous?)"

brianp-beme 08-11-2019 01:29 PM

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The final installment...the good/bad luck cards. A few more examples of Good Luck, plus my favorite Good Luck and Bad Luck cards...."I wish you good luck and will try and give you back" with the funny little tongue sticking out drawing, "Luck to me but no bute ells (nobody else), and "Bad luck don't use this one for a tore(?). As it will bounce back. And you will lose."

Brian

ValKehl 08-11-2019 02:25 PM

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Does anyone recognize whose handiwork this is on the back of this W575-1 card of Sam Rice?

RCMcKenzie 08-11-2019 09:40 PM

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One Doc Crandall w/ stats. The other looks like it says "Pot is Crandall" or "Pot 15 Crandall" Don't know.

ValKehl 08-11-2019 09:59 PM

The writing on the back of the 1921 card is likely intended to mean:

P (for pitcher) Otis Crandall (also known as "Doc" Crandall).

https://www.baseball-reference.com/r...d=cranda002jam

RCMcKenzie 08-11-2019 10:30 PM

Ah, thanks, Val. That's it. I read some more on Crandall just now, that Damon Runyon gave him the nickname "Doc", "the physician of the pitching emergency."

brianp-beme 08-12-2019 12:48 AM

I haven't seen the writing on Val's card before, but I have seen the writing seen on the Crandall card. If I remember M. MaCrae's info correctly, he of the incredible PCL and card knowledge, these came from a collector with a substantial Zeenut collection who wrote on these as a kid in this distinctive fashion, and showed up in the Bay Area collecting scene in the 70-80's(?) There are a lot of them out there, I have a few.

Brian

oaks1912 08-12-2019 08:08 AM

The writing on the back of the Crandall card is from Norm McTeer's collection. He was an advanced West Coast collector from the 30's-70's. His collection of several thousand (Bay Area released) cards was broken down in the mid 70's and virtually every intermediate to advanced PCL collection will contain examples from his collection... By the way Brian, great collection of 'personalized' backs:)

brianp-beme 08-12-2019 11:32 AM

I knew Mark would be able to reach back into the Rolodex of his mind and come up with more details of the handwriting seen on the Crandall card.

And of course I also have to thank Mark for a good chunk of the cards seen in my scans. In many cases when I was at a show I had multiple of the same card to choose from his glorious stacks, and I chose the ones I posted.

Brian

h2oya311 08-12-2019 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by brianp-beme (Post 1907469)
On the flip side are the negative criticism and flat out insults. I know I would feel pretty low if I were identified as a mediocre pitcher, or a punk relief pitcher, or as a "Man(ager) Pitcher of Seattle, not much of either", or called out as a big fool (could have been either for player or new owner of the card). My favorite insult of all time is the one with "Meusel is nothing but an old flat lunch". And nothing could be worse than being called an old flat lunch.

I think it's "old flat lard"...which doesn't make sense either but is pretty close to "old fat lard". Notice how his earlier "a" looks a lot like a "u". Just a thought...

and awesome thread!

HRBAKER 08-12-2019 02:00 PM

A vary rare "Pirate Back" Exhibit card:

https://i152.photobucket.com/albums/.../BST/001-1.jpg

Others:

https://i152.photobucket.com/albums/.../BST/backs.jpg

brianp-beme 08-12-2019 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by HRBAKER (Post 1907757)
A vary rare "Pirate Back" Exhibit card:

https://i152.photobucket.com/albums/.../BST/001-1.jpg

Cool...dat thar pirate even 'ave tattoos!

Brian

brianp-beme 08-12-2019 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by h2oya311 (Post 1907719)
I think it's "old flat lard"...which doesn't make sense either but is pretty close to "old fat lard". Notice how his earlier "a" looks a lot like a "u". Just a thought...

and awesome thread!

Old fat lard...still lacking all components that would make this comment a compliment. I think the last letter of lunch/lard looks like the 'h' in our little scribbler made in his 'nothing'. But either way still quite humorous.

Brian

CobbSpikedMe 08-12-2019 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by HRBAKER (Post 1907757)

Jeff, who is on the front of your Becker/Prize back W516? I love those backs myself.

https://cobbspikedme.yolasite.com/re...=1521951595605

HRBAKER 08-12-2019 02:13 PM

Andy,
I believe that it is Babe Adams.

Leon 08-13-2019 08:28 AM

Bishops - E100
 
Not sure about a fun thing but ole Alfred really liked to sign some PCL cards backs, back in the day. These boomeranged from my first collection too.
I always liked the fact they are used in Lew's Encyclopedia too (which is where they were originally acquired).

http://luckeycards.com/pe100comparison.jpg

Exhibitman 08-13-2019 10:39 AM

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...taille%201.jpg

Bill77 08-13-2019 08:54 PM

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I still like this Ted Williams card.

nat 08-14-2019 06:18 PM

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Love this thread idea. Below are three Japanese cards from the late 1940s. L to R, Henry "Bozo" Wakabiyashi, Tetsuharu Kawakami, and Hiroshi Oshita. The text on the back is paired with numbers 1-12, and says things like "hit to left field", "hit to right field", "ground out to shortstop", things like that. What it is is that some kid came up with a dice game, and put it on the back of his baseball cards.

Yoda 08-14-2019 07:55 PM

I think my favorite so far is Eddie Miller's, " I am dangers."

LuckyLarry 08-15-2019 04:58 AM

http://www.net54baseball.com/picture...ictureid=27255http://www.net54baseball.com/picture...ictureid=27256

ValKehl 08-15-2019 05:20 PM

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Someone didn't care much for this HOFer:

Rhotchkiss 08-16-2019 05:43 AM

Brian, I have nothing to add, but great thread - very fun read. Thanks for staring it.

Leon 08-18-2019 11:44 AM

It is a cool threed. Here is a cigar being smoked, added to a front. Another boomerang back (as mentioned before.) from the original collection.

http://luckeycards.com/mack.jpg

brianp-beme 11-15-2021 02:31 PM

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While looking through my Zeenuts for another thread came across these two fun ones...on the right an example of a baseball grocery list card, including the 1lb. of butter, a kitchen staple.

On the left not only a cool finger pointin' stamp, but also the "Do not steal this card for fear the gallows will be your end" warning.

Ominous!

Brian

Frankish 11-15-2021 02:50 PM

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In a collection of 1947 and 1948 Japanese baseball cards I bought, there were a couple of dozen cards with some sort of game being played on the back. I haven't quite figured it out, but here are a few random ones....

Tao_Moko 11-15-2021 05:13 PM

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I've shared these in the boxing forum, but fits nicely here too. They're very nicely cut for strips and inked by a passionate young fella.

obcmac 11-15-2021 05:35 PM

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Back of my 21 exhibit Hornsby.

phlflyer1 11-15-2021 06:12 PM

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Got quite a laugh when I found and purchased this as part of a non sports lot years ago. :D

deadballfreaK 11-15-2021 07:07 PM

No pic, but I have a Kashin of Herb Pennock which says in a very childish scrawl:

HERB PENNOCK WHO PURPOSELY LET BEES STING HIS ARM AS A CURE BUT IT MADE HIM A BIT WORSE. HE (BEFORE) WAS A GOOD PITCHER.

DeanH3 11-15-2021 11:40 PM

Here's one that I no longer own.

https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=18935

atx840 11-16-2021 09:46 AM

Found this in a large raw collection I acquired, not sure who owns it now.

https://i.imgur.com/8SbIOTm.jpg

asoriano 11-16-2021 09:57 AM

I love this card...
 
https://i.ibb.co/7zQgWym/jdimaggio-final.png

CobbSpikedMe 11-16-2021 03:34 PM

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Always loved these Becker/Prize back W516s.


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