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jethrod3 01-15-2023 12:43 AM

If You Collect Scorecards or Programs, Show 'em Here!
 
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I did a search, and it doesn't appear that there have been any threads dedicated to scorecards or programs for some time; the few that popped up in the last 7 years or so stopped after 1 page. Let's see if there are still some proud scorecard and program collectors out there that have some items or new acquisitions to share with the group.

I'll start, and admittedly this first post is nothing to get too excited about unfortunately. But it is my latest acquisition and didn't set me back too much. It's a program from Jim Brown's last regular season game, in which he was ejected for fighting, but not before scoring his final career TD and wrapping up another rushing title. Thought there might be more pictures of Brown inside, but there was only one small pic and write-up. Still, it was a program I wanted to add to my collection for a couple of years...so here it is!

bigfanNY 01-15-2023 08:48 AM

1959 NFL Championship program
 
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This was Ted Patterson's it is signed by almost everybody on both teams.. not just on the outside the inside is loaded.
Second Program Is Babe Ruth's HR 701. Written on cover is The most exciting game I ever Witnessed won in 9th inning by rhe fighting Tigers 12 to 11.
This 1897 NY Giants is very nice. Ny faced Clevland Spiders and Cy Young..
More to come.

matty39 01-15-2023 09:25 AM

programs
 
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Federal league programs

doug.goodman 01-15-2023 11:30 AM

Ruth & Cobb
 
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Matty - those are beautiful.
Jonathan - I love period notes on old programs / scorecards
Jethrod - Brown's last TD is pretty darned cool, thank you for this thread, I love scored programs


Here's my (first) post to this (hopefully) long running thread :

Sept 11, 1928 Yankee Stadium

The Babe hits #49 of the year and #465 of his career, while knocking in what prove to be the game winning runs. In response, Mr. Mack send two members of the 3000 hit club to start a rally in the 9th, but alas, Cobb pops to short in his last career at bat, and Collins does the same (he had 15 more at bats).

I'm going to love this thread, apologies in advance for posting too much, but I have over 6000 potential submissions...

Doug "giddy like a school girl" Goodman

Andy Sandler 01-15-2023 12:15 PM

Here are a few of mine.
 
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Here are a few of mine.

Schlesinj 01-15-2023 01:54 PM

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Babe Ruth Bows Out w Ticket inside (Uncle Jimmy Collection).

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Here are a few DiMaggio items.
56 game hit streak end.
Minor league 61 game hit streak with photo taken after game.

jethrod3 01-15-2023 02:02 PM

Spectacular start to this thread! I've seen a few Federal League programs in various threads in this forum but never had the chance to thumb through one myself. The Ruth 701 scorecard is amazing, and the scorecard for Cobb's last at bat---not many of those can possibly exist! I'm sure we'll see some "Holy Grail" items if the thread runs long enough!

Chris Counts 01-15-2023 02:34 PM

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I like the scorecards from the 40s and 50s best, especially if they're signed.

scooter729 01-15-2023 02:48 PM

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I have a collection of early Red Sox programs - here are a few of my favorites (along with a 1904 Browns vs. Boston Americans program)....

bigfanNY 01-15-2023 04:21 PM

Matty The Federal league programs are fantastic. Doug always nice to see anything from your 6k program collection. And the Final day Streak progeams are over the top.. Thank you all for for sharing.
Andy nice group but dig a little deeper and share some of the other Great programs in your collection.
The 48 Babe is a great program from a sad day at the Stadium.
Jonathan

doug.goodman 01-15-2023 05:21 PM

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The Ruth 701 scorecard is amazing

Here's a Ruth program that is 1 less amazing...

doug.goodman 01-15-2023 05:32 PM

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Great programs / scorecards don't have to be older than my parents...

Here is my scorecard from Aug 12, 2018 when the Cubs beat the Nationals on a David Bote Ultimate Grand Slam.

For those who don't know, an Ultimate Grand Slam is when the home team is losing by three runs with two out in the bottom of the 9th and one swing wins it.

This scorecard embarrasses me a bit as I look at it now, as I usually keep a pitch count, and I'm surprised I didn't fill in all the final stats.

It was a pretty amazing moment to see happen,
Doug

GaryPassamonte 01-15-2023 05:38 PM

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May 27, 1871. From the first few weeks of the National Association. Thanks, Jonathan.

Topnotchsy 01-15-2023 06:39 PM

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I collect programs related to my areas of collecting focus.

One of my favorite areas are barnstorming games.

The Mays All-Stars is from the 1955 All-Star tour led by Mays and Don Newcombe. Many other greats including Hank Aaron, Ernie Banks, Larry Doby and others. In this particular game, Mays hit a walk-off HR.

The 1945 program is from a game that Satchell Paige and Bob Feller faced off. After the game, Feller famously made comments about his belief that he didn't think that Jackie Robinson (who played in the game) was a Major League player. It led to negative feelings for Jackie towards Feller for many years.

BaltOrioles 01-15-2023 07:11 PM

Orioles minor league affiliates
 
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I'm an Baltimore Orioles collector working on a labor of love to acquire programs/scorecards of all the O's minor league affiliates since 1954.

Here's a few of my more obscure minor league programs


1954 Americus-Cordele Orioles & 1954 Pine Bluff Judges

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1955 Fayetteville Highlanders & 1957 Phoenix Stars

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1959 Amarillo Gold Sox & 1960 Leesburg Orioles

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1961 Ardmore Rosebuds & 1961 Tri-Cities Braves (Atoms)

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Here's what I have left. Programs can be scored and condition isn't an issue.
Any help with even one program is appreciated.

Aberdeen Pheasants 1962, 1965
Ada Herefords/Cementers 1954
Anderson Rebels 1954
Batavia Trojans 1966
Bluefield Orioles 1987, 2001, 2004, 2005, 2009
Cordele Orioles 1955
Dublin Orioles 1958
Fitzgerald Orioles 1957
Fox Cities (Appleton) Foxes 1965
Kingsport Orioles 1957
Lubbock Hubbers 1956
Marion Marauders 1954
Meridian Millers 1955
Paris Orioles 1955, 1956, 1957
Pensacola Dons 1958, 1959
Phoenix Stars 1956
Pine Bluff Judges 1955
Stockton Ports 1956, 1959, 1961, 1962, 1963, 1965, 1966, 1968, 1971
Texas City Texans 1956
Thetford Mines Miners 1954, 1955
Thomson Orioles 1956
Tri-City Atoms 1965
Tri-City Braves 1960
Wilson Tobs 1958
Wytheville Statesmen 1954

guy3050 01-15-2023 08:03 PM

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1969 Expos vs Pirates program Signed by Roberto Clemente

doug.goodman 01-15-2023 08:23 PM

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1969 Expos vs Pirates program Signed by Roberto Clemente

Wow. Wow. Wow.

GrayGhost 01-15-2023 08:28 PM

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This one is for sale. Yogi Berras last game as a player

Collectorsince62 01-15-2023 09:01 PM

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Cardinal scorecard from September 28, 1930. On the final day of the regular season Dizzy Dean makes his major league debut, pitching a 3-hit complete game victory with five strikeouts as the N.L. champion Redbirds defeat the Pirates 3-1. Dean adds a single and scores a run. He doesn't return to the majors until 1932.

Schlesinj 01-15-2023 09:50 PM

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Here is 1927 WS Game 4 from the Newman collection.
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bigfanNY 01-15-2023 10:33 PM

Gary please share some other of your NA and early NL scorecards.

Doug Yes your scorecard from the previous day was HR 700 which exited the stadium and was picked up on the street. Yes Scorecards from games you attended are extra special.

jethrod3 01-15-2023 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by doug.goodman (Post 2304651)
Here is my scorecard from Aug 12, 2018 when the Cubs beat the Nationals on a David Bote Ultimate Grand Slam.

For those who don't know, an Ultimate Grand Slam is when the home team is losing by three runs with two out in the bottom of the 9th and one swing wins it.

This is yet another benefit of reading fantastic posts---one can get impressed, inspired, and learn at the same time. I forgot they are called Ultimate GS's. And your post reminded me of a game that I'd attended in which A-Rod hit a walk-off grand slam in 2007. I was in NY for business but at Yankee Stadium for pleasure that day, and I know I kept both the ticket and the program from that game, and I thought for sure the visitors were down by 3 runs. But...a little research indicated that was not the case. Still, it was great to watch the YouTube video and re-live that walk-off GS again!

guy3050 01-16-2023 05:28 AM

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October 2nd 1972 at Jarry Park Bill Stoneman's 2nd no-hitter

commishbob 01-16-2023 07:19 AM

Programs (and yearbooks/media guides) are the part of my collection that I enjoy the most. I collect mostly Orioles, Baltimore Colts, and NY Rangers items in addition to ephemera related to games that interest me.

A few years ago I tracked down a program from the first game I attended with my Dad, a 1960 doubleheader at Yankee Stadium versus the White Sox.

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This one is from a 1951 exhibition game between the Brooklyn Dodgers and the International League Orioles. The Dodgers barnstormed their way north from spring training. The O's were a Phillies farm club in 1951.

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Dodger lineup for the game:
Don Thompson CF
Carl Furillo LF
Duke Snyder RF
Jackie Robinson 2B
Gil Hodges 1B
Roy Campanella C (the scorer listed him as 'Campy', I love that)
Pee Wee Reese 3B
Rocky Bridges SS
Preacher Roe P

What a kick it must have been for the locals to see those Dodgers stars in person.

Here's a pretty beat-up 1953 IL Orioles program, their last year as a AAA club (if you don't count some of those 1990s Orioles teams! :rolleyes:

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Lastly my oldest hockey program, from a Rangers game in 1943. I picked it up because of the cover art.

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The awesome US Armed Forces content was a nice bonus.

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mrreality68 01-16-2023 07:21 AM

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Some amazing ones

Especially love those Federal League Ones

This is my one and only from Ruth’s 1915 season

ibuysportsephemera 01-16-2023 08:33 AM

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1962 (first year), 1963 & 1964 New York Mets Opening Days Programs & Tickets.

gonefishin 01-16-2023 09:51 AM

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How about a little basketball!

5-Tool Player 01-16-2023 11:16 AM

Nolan Ryan !st Win
 
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Nolan's first of his 324 Wins

GaryPassamonte 01-16-2023 11:25 AM

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Here you go, Jonathan. First year of National League, 1876. The color of each Chicago player's cap is listed below his name. The different cap colors allowed the players to be identified. There was no team identifier on the uniform and numbers were many years away.

jethrod3 01-16-2023 11:43 AM

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How about a little basketball!

The Zollner Pistons have entered the discussion via a neat NBL program!

jethrod3 01-16-2023 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by commishbob (Post 2304807)

A few years ago I tracked down a program from the first game I attended with my Dad, a 1960 doubleheader at Yankee Stadium versus the White Sox.

Those of us that kept the tix or programs from our first games (or who have been able to track them down later in life) are pretty lucky!

bigfanNY 01-16-2023 01:02 PM

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The Newark Bears won the Junior or Little world series 3 times 1932 1937 ( The Wonder Bears ) 1940.

doug.goodman 01-16-2023 01:14 PM

What a great thread. Not a boring post yet, besides this one.

I particularly love that Expos no-hitter and the Mets openers...

gonefishin 01-16-2023 02:03 PM

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How about Warren Spahn's 300th win. The most undervalued player in baseball.

71buc 01-16-2023 02:13 PM

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September 1, 1971 Danny Murtaugh fields the first all minority starting lineup: Sanguillen, Ellis, Oliver, Cash, Hernandez, Stennett, Stargell, Clines, and Clemente.

bigfanNY 01-16-2023 02:39 PM

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Also part of my NJ program collection and Because Doug will like it here is my 1950 Trenton Giants with Willie Mays.

Gary very nice 1876 with Spaulding!!

guy3050 01-16-2023 03:37 PM

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Possibly the earliest known Expos program and ticket April 5th 1969 in Omaha Nebraska, 3 days before their inaugural game on April 8th 1969 at Shea Stadium

commishbob 01-16-2023 03:58 PM

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Those of us that kept the tix or programs from our first games (or who have been able to track them down later in life) are pretty lucky!

That’s for sure. I have quite a few tickets from games I attended and publications I picked up back then but not many from those early 60s games. I keep looking for that first game stub on eBay. One day I’ll get lucky

Bumpus Jones 01-16-2023 04:46 PM

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Great thread and posts everyone. Here's a first night game scorebook / program where the original owner / attendee pasted their ticket to the front cover.

Belfast1933 01-16-2023 05:59 PM

You guys are killing me! Now I TOTALLY want to get into programs too. Some of the cover artwork and/or images are just awesome!

I know this is a silly/hard question but what should I expect from a budget POV compared to cards from the same era? Trying to figure out if my scrawny card budget can afford a few cool programs.

Great thread!

Scott Garner 01-16-2023 06:24 PM

Amazing scorebooks!
 
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Wow! What a great thread so far!!
I can't believe that no one has ever started a scorebook thread before...

FWIW, I have nowhere near the collection that Doug Goodman has (who does LOL?)

But, I do have a pretty extensive collection of vintage no-hitter game programs, but rather than post the obvious, I thought I would post a few of the others that I like in my collection.

Here is a scored program to HOF Sandy Koufax's NL record of 382K's in a single season in 1965. Mack Jones was K #382.

I also have a scored program to Nolan Ryan's ML single season K record of 383K's in 1973. Rich Reese of the Minnesota Twins was K #383.

A scored program to HOF Nolan Ryan's ML debut on 9/11/1966.

Finally, a scored program to Ryan's 3509K game where he passed Walter Johnson for the All Time ML strikeout record.
Tim Blackwell was 3508 which tied WaJo and Montreal's Brad Mills was K # 3509.
This scored program is signed by both Blackwell and Brad Mills. Pretty cool!
Yes, Guy Bourque, this post is for you! ;)

Love the Stoneman 2nd no-hitter scorebook, Guy!

Topnotchsy 01-16-2023 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Belfast1933 (Post 2305005)
You guys are killing me! Now I TOTALLY want to get into programs too. Some of the cover artwork and/or images are just awesome!

I know this is a silly/hard question but what should I expect from a budget POV compared to cards from the same era? Trying to figure out if my scrawny card budget can afford a few cool programs.

Great thread!

Programs are often quite affordable. Generally much more affordable than tickets, and likely more affordable than vintage cards.

There are obviously exceptions, but with the history and artwork and detail (love the old ads etc), I think they are shockingly affordable.

5-Tool Player 01-16-2023 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Topnotchsy (Post 2305020)
Programs are often quite affordable. Generally much more affordable than tickets, and likely more affordable than vintage cards.

There are obviously exceptions, but with the history and artwork and detail (love the old ads etc), I think they are shockingly affordable.

+1......yes affordable and documented history

Lordstan 01-16-2023 09:21 PM

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One of my favorites..
My personal scorecard from 1977 when the Mets played the Cubs and the blackout in NYC happened. We were at the game when it all went dark

Writehooks 01-16-2023 10:50 PM

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From the sweet science:

- Gunboat Smith vs Georges Carpentier for World White Heavyweight Championship, July 16, 1914 in London
- Duane Bobick vs Kallie Knoetze for World White Heavyweight Championship, January 28, 1978 in Johannesburg, South Africa
- Cassius Clay vs Sonny Liston I for World Heavyweight Championship, February 25, 1964 in Miami, Florida

jethrod3 01-16-2023 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Belfast1933 (Post 2305005)

I know this is a silly/hard question but what should I expect from a budget POV compared to cards from the same era? Trying to figure out if my scrawny card budget can afford a few cool programs. Great thread!

It's a tough question but also I think it's a great question! Especially when one considers what the next big thing in collecting might be. It might as well be programs and scorecards! Personally I hope that programs and scorecards are where tickets were 5 (or so) years ago---somewhat underappreciated and affordable but then ready to take off in the not-to-distant future. I do, however, think you can get common scorecards from the 40's and 50's (featuring some but not all teams) that would be graded NM that would run about the same price as, or even less than common cards from that era in that condition (certainly less than the high series cards).

doug.goodman 01-17-2023 12:56 AM

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FWIW, I have nowhere near the collection that Doug Goodman has (who does LOL?)

I may have the quantity, but I'm thinking Scott has the quality.

Here's a a beat up one I like (with a ticket)...

jethrod3 01-17-2023 01:58 AM

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Here's a a beat up one I like (with a ticket)...

LOL, what was the artist smoking when they drew that cover for the game that ended up being the Koufax perfect game??


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